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Denmark is a very small country and what works there doesn’t necessarily work at the scale of the US or China.
by behnamoh 2mo ago
Denmark is a very small country and what works there doesn’t necessarily work at the scale of the US or China.
- toad_tyrrant 2mo agoWhy not? This is such a thought terminating statement. No actual reason.
- behnamoh 2mo agoTell me you're not a programmer w/o telling me. What works at scale can be fundamentally different than what works in a small startup (Denmark).
- halperter 2mo agoCould you point out a reason why education, which can be standardized at least to a state scale¹, cannot be standardized to the state scale utilizing oral defenses? Also, can be ≠ is. Not everything is a startup lol ¹https://www.doe.mass.edu/frameworks/ https://www.doe.mass.edu/frameworks/
- toad_tyrrant 2mo agoYou said it can be fundamentally different, and of course it can. But “it doesn’t scale” isn’t an argument by itself. In many areas, scale actually creates efficiencies. You’d need to explain what specifically about the larger scale makes the Danish approach unworkable in the U.S
- flaunf221 2mo agoIf in person exams are seemingly impossible in US due to scale, we have to conclude that before internet US had no education?
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- consensus1 2mo agoFor parallelizable workloads it scales just fine, and giving exams is perfectly parallelizable. Any good programmer would know that.
- bonoboTP 2mo agoThe US consists of many small parts too, and it may work in each of those small parts.
- pmyteh 2mo agoThe important variable is the staff/student ratio, not the size of the country. With few students per class, or many teachers, this scales fine. I'm running similar exams for my (UK) Masters modules, but colleagues are reluctant to do it for the enormous compulsory survey courses as there are several hundred students in them (vs up to about 50 in the MA ones).
- JackFr 2mo agoFor a large compulsory survey course, a well written multiple choice test should suffice. If the test is well constructed, teaching to the test should cover exactly the required material and be no impediment.
- emiliobumachar 2mo agoPiling on. Why? Are class sizes that different? US and China have many more professors too, is it not proportional?
- impossiblefork 2mo agoTop US universities actually have higher teacher/student ratios than top EU schools, and I wouldn't be surprised if this pattern holds in general, so it would be easier to do in the US than it is here.
- Symbiote 2mo agoThis is about Danish high school exams.
- impossiblefork 2mo agoOh, in that case it is actually flipped.
- Symbiote 2mo agoWould it work in Wisconsin, Minnesota, South Carolina, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Utah, Nevada, Iowa, Puerto Rico, Arkensas, Kansas, Mississippi, New Mexico, Idaho, Nebraska, West Virginia, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, DC, Vermont or Wyoming? They all have a lower population than Denmark. All but six states (CA, TX, FL, NY, PA, IL) have less than double the population of Denmark.