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At least these sites (its more than Amazon) are being built near the energy source they will consume. Straight out of the ground into a turbine and then into t

At least these sites (its more than Amazon) are being built near the energy source they will consume. Straight out of the ground into a turbine and then into the electron spinners. Also there's not a lot of anything where these sites are located (Near El Paso). The 4-5 Road Runners who live around there will probably appreciate the change. West Texas is basically Mad Max 2.

mrpopo 2mo ago
No one cares about West Texas, it's about the 33 million tons of carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere and warming the world. Reminder that the USA are the country that historically burned the most fossil fuels, the world's largest extractor of oil, the only country trying to do a 180 on coal power. Half of the world has experienced unprecedented heatwaves that will become the norm in 2050. Stop burning fossil fuels.
- measurablefunc 2mo ago
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  - mrpopo 2mo ago
    At the very least stop burning 3x more fossil fuels than the world average. Or stop your president from buying out renewable energy projects in order to prop up coal and gas. Or stop blocking public transportation developments. Why does it look like no one is trying?
    - measurablefunc 2mo ago
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  - calgoo 2mo ago
    Please, yea it can, it just takes a full investment and outlawing of the fossil fuel industry that bribe everyone to say that its impossible.
    - measurablefunc 2mo ago
      The average grocery store food item travels more than 3k miles to reach its destination from the source. Let me know how you're going to make that work w/o diesel.
      - worik 2mo ago
        1. My food does not, why does yours 2. There are many alternatives to fossil diesel 3. The alternatives involved decentralised technology, so is actively opposed by entrenched interests who would burn the world for a dollar
        measurablefunc 2mo ago
        Because I live in a city w/ an unsustainable ecological footprint & so does basically the rest of the industrialized world.
        ponector 2mo ago
        It does not explain why your food is travelling 3k miles. For sure you can buy food grown within 500 miles, not delivered from other hemisphere.
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      - WillAdams 2mo ago
        The solution to that would be "locavore": https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-a-locavore-5118259 https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-a-locavore-5118259
      - Qwertious 2mo ago
        Electric trains can ship overland cheaper than diesel trucks. If we'd put half the money we put into free/subsidised highways into rail instead, the problem would already be solved. The last mile could be fairly easily electrified at this point, battery trucks are quite sensible for short distances.
  - worik 2mo ago
    The system will not survive another decade burning fossil fuels.
    - measurablefunc 2mo ago
      The consequences are already baked in, the only question is how badly it will play out & who will get the short end of the stick.
  - Mistletoe 2mo ago
    Stop the system, everyone is miserable in it anyway.
    - api 2mo ago
      Stop the system and miserable people will blame that for why they’re miserable. “Remember the good old days?” Hate urban modern life? Leave then. Lots of places to go live more simply.
  - api 2mo ago
    Oh nonsense. Energy is energy. It would be hard to decarbonize long haul trucking and aviation, which together account for less than ten percent of global oil use. Almost everything else can be powered by other things. Might have been true thirty or forty years ago, but even back then France had almost completely decarbonized the grid. My guess would be a giant gas plant for a data center in Texas is part of the deal for letting them build it. Oil and gas owns that state.
    - acdha 2mo ago
      Even long-haul trucking can shrink rapidly between electric trucks (Australia is using those successfully - they’re cheaper and faster on hilly routes) on the shorter routes and electric trains (mature technology for a century) for many longer routes. Businesses would adjust but I think it’s really only aviation which is completely without a path until synthetic fuels arrive.
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mrpopo 2mo ago

No one cares about West Texas, it's about the 33 million tons of carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere and warming the world. Reminder that the USA are the country that historically burned the most fossil fuels, the world's largest extractor of oil, the only country trying to do a 180 on coal power. Half of the world has experienced unprecedented heatwaves that will become the norm in 2050. Stop burning fossil fuels.

measurablefunc 2mo ago
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- mrpopo 2mo ago
  At the very least stop burning 3x more fossil fuels than the world average. Or stop your president from buying out renewable energy projects in order to prop up coal and gas. Or stop blocking public transportation developments. Why does it look like no one is trying?
  - measurablefunc 2mo ago
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- calgoo 2mo ago
  Please, yea it can, it just takes a full investment and outlawing of the fossil fuel industry that bribe everyone to say that its impossible.
  - measurablefunc 2mo ago
    The average grocery store food item travels more than 3k miles to reach its destination from the source. Let me know how you're going to make that work w/o diesel.
    - worik 2mo ago
      1. My food does not, why does yours 2. There are many alternatives to fossil diesel 3. The alternatives involved decentralised technology, so is actively opposed by entrenched interests who would burn the world for a dollar
      - measurablefunc 2mo ago
        Because I live in a city w/ an unsustainable ecological footprint & so does basically the rest of the industrialized world.
        ponector 2mo ago
        It does not explain why your food is travelling 3k miles. For sure you can buy food grown within 500 miles, not delivered from other hemisphere.
    - deleted 2mo ago
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    - WillAdams 2mo ago
      The solution to that would be "locavore": https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-a-locavore-5118259 https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-a-locavore-5118259
    - Qwertious 2mo ago
      Electric trains can ship overland cheaper than diesel trucks. If we'd put half the money we put into free/subsidised highways into rail instead, the problem would already be solved. The last mile could be fairly easily electrified at this point, battery trucks are quite sensible for short distances.
- worik 2mo ago
  The system will not survive another decade burning fossil fuels.
  - measurablefunc 2mo ago
    The consequences are already baked in, the only question is how badly it will play out & who will get the short end of the stick.
- Mistletoe 2mo ago
  Stop the system, everyone is miserable in it anyway.
  - api 2mo ago
    Stop the system and miserable people will blame that for why they’re miserable. “Remember the good old days?” Hate urban modern life? Leave then. Lots of places to go live more simply.
- api 2mo ago
  Oh nonsense. Energy is energy. It would be hard to decarbonize long haul trucking and aviation, which together account for less than ten percent of global oil use. Almost everything else can be powered by other things. Might have been true thirty or forty years ago, but even back then France had almost completely decarbonized the grid. My guess would be a giant gas plant for a data center in Texas is part of the deal for letting them build it. Oil and gas owns that state.
  - acdha 2mo ago
    Even long-haul trucking can shrink rapidly between electric trucks (Australia is using those successfully - they’re cheaper and faster on hilly routes) on the shorter routes and electric trains (mature technology for a century) for many longer routes. Businesses would adjust but I think it’s really only aviation which is completely without a path until synthetic fuels arrive.

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