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Also fails to distinguish between “society came out of it fine” (generally true) and “individuals came out of it fine” (much more mixed of a track record)
by Macha 2mo ago
Also fails to distinguish between “society came out of it fine” (generally true) and “individuals came out of it fine” (much more mixed of a track record)
- rayiner 2mo agoYes. And individuals largely don’t come out fine. We have this notion of “retraining” but that’s not real. It’s like how studies show it’s very hard to make friends as an adult. Most people whose jobs were shipped overseas in deindustrialization never recovers.
- lesuorac 2mo ago> We have this notion of “retraining” but that’s not real. While I haven't been "retrained" my understanding was the real issue that it's lip-service. Like the Department of Labor doesn't actually show up to a closed down factory with staff to train people in some other vocation.
- logicchains 2mo agoUniversity-educated "Knowledge workers" should be much more capable of learning new things than the average factory production line worker.
- nemo44x 2mo agoWe create 25% more new jobs that never existed before than jobs that are forever destroyed as obsolete every year. In the USA.
- pjmlp 2mo agoAn yet the unemployment numbers are as they are, because even when wanting to get them, those jobs aren't made available due to ridiculous hiring practices, or any other set of reasons that leave empty slots.
- victorbjorklund 2mo agoIt’s harder to go from 30 years as an assembly worker to a career as a developer than go from developer to say product manager or whatever roles will survive.
- adrianN 2mo agoIn companies where I worked there were about two dozen developers for every product manager, sometimes more.
- victorbjorklund 2mo agoThat’s why I said ”or whatever role”
- ryanbrunner 2mo ago1. There's far less product managers 2. What makes you so sure that product managers won't be automated away? The breathless pronouncements from the people running these companies aren't that there won't be software developers, it's that there won't be knowledge workers.
- victorbjorklund 2mo agoThat’s why I said ”whatever” roles. Doubt you think no a single role will exist in 10 years?
- pjmlp 2mo agoAs someone that as teenager observe traditional shoe factories being automated away, or the production being sent offshore, the robot factory can function with 10% of the original staff, or even less. Now for the sake of argument multiply the 90% of the employees that were laid off, with the amount of companies that do the same, there aren't enough roles whatever those may be for everyone else now at the job center.