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The flaw in the analogy is that oracle is made of people. It's not a lawnmower, it's a group of people with human motivations and human thoughts. It's true they
by burnte 2mo ago
The flaw in the analogy is that oracle is made of people. It's not a lawnmower, it's a group of people with human motivations and human thoughts. It's true they don't HATE people, but it's also true they absolutely have no conscience in negotiations and have zero concern about relationships.
- dan_q 2mo ago> It's true they don't HATE people Maybe so, but perhaps the most successful part of the AI marketing pitch has been exploiting management's hatred of labor (and vice versa). A significant motivator for a lot of the nonsensical AI layoffs and initiatives over the last three years has been that it's a great opportunity for management to get ill on their slaves. Tech labor got a little too big for their britches during the hiring spree of 2021, and AI was a great opportunity to take them down a peg, even if it offered little in the way of ROI.
- burnte 2mo agoYep, it's been a huge tool in the control games management likes to play.
- TimTheTinker 2mo agoHow many bureaucracies in history have behaved in deeply misanthropic ways, especially when led by misanthropic leaders? Don't underestimate the power of the desire to keep one's job to cause a large organization to behave towards its own self-perpetuation despite the moral lines that must be crossed by individuals to do so.
- burnte 2mo ago> How many bureaucracies in history have behaved in deeply misanthropic ways, especially when led by misanthropic leaders? Lots! > Don't underestimate the power of the desire to keep one's job to cause a large organization to behave towards its own self-perpetuation despite the moral lines that must be crossed by individuals to do so. I don't. I don't put anything past people.
- Alive-in-2025 2mo agoYes, lots, look at the current US government.
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- pmkary 2mo agoOh you fell into the trap... Just don't anthropomorphize Oracle...
- burnte 2mo agoI'm not, I'm anthropomorphizing people.
- ljm 2mo agoSo they're not human then. The quote holds up.
- DonHopkins 2mo agoYou're carrying the water and making rationalizations for a lawnmower.
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- aaronharnly 2mo agoThe original was not even about Oracle the corporation, it was about understanding the psychology of Larry Ellison specifically.
- kmeisthax 2mo agoHe's talking about the owner of Oracle, not the people who work there. It doesn't matter how many smart and talented real humans work at Oracle, the guy running it acts like a fleshy paperclip optimizer.
- burnte 2mo agoI agree, but Larry doesn't hate people, he just enjoys crushing them for his own benefit. If you can't benefit him he doesn't care about you at all.
- ljm 2mo agoIt won't be made of people for long given how many Ellison is culling to prop up his gamble on AI data centres.
- setr 2mo ago> It's true they don't HATE people, but it's also true they absolutely have no conscience in negotiations and have zero concern about relationships. Sure. Like a lawnmower.
- xanthor 2mo agoIt's a joke that you're missing.