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That’s not treason, just bad governance. They do need accountability though

by mcmcmc 2mo ago

JumpCrisscross 2mo ago
> not treason, just bad governance ICE is damn close to an organisation of brownshirts. If they fuck with the elections in November, that's an organised effort to use violence to overthrow our Constitutional order. That would be treason. We're not at the point of treason. But we have leaders credibly threatening to commit it. (I'd say Stephen Miller has commited treason. As in try-him-and-hang-him treason.
- mcmcmc 2mo ago
  Yes it would be, but that hasn’t happened yet.
  - bulbar 2mo ago
    And when it happens, you will advocate to bring them to court to judge on their actions a year after it happened? Would be to late then and nobody will effectively be sentenced.
    - mcmcmc 2mo ago
      If it happens, it’s 2A time
      - JumpCrisscross 2mo ago
        > it’s 2A time It’s always 2A time. Nutters committing crimes just go on the docket.
      - krapp 2mo ago
        Oh. that's the red line. OK. Good to know there is one. Weird that it wasn't when Trump supporters were kidnapping people and making bomb threats prior to the election or when they stormed the Capitol to try to kill Pence and force the result. Or even when ICE was being sent out into the streets and kidnapping people and shooting them dead in the street to begin with, and being sent out with National Guard troops to indimidate blue state voters. Or when DOGE ransacked the government and exfiltrated Americans' data to Palantir, which will make interfering with the elections much easier. Or when Trump refused to release the Epstein files. Which has nothing to do with election fraud but I feel like the sitting President being a serial rapist and pedophile defying the DOJ to protect himself and a network of pedophiles within the government should be a bigger deal than it is. If they mess with elections again (because they already tried mind you) then Americans will do something. OK. Good to know.
        mcmcmc 2mo ago
        Yeah I don’t live in the places where that was/is happening. A small benefit of rural small town living. My rep and senator are both blue and acting it. The red line moves up the easier it is to do something about it.
      - bulbar 2mo ago
        Pretty sure that's not the case. Interfering with the voting process won't happen in your town, or even in most towns, only in carefully selected areas. To, you know, make sure everything is in order and nothing illegal is going on. When it got the news, interference by ICE will be denied, it's all about law and order. Will you then travel 200 miles to fight law enforcement? People won't. At the time of general election there will also be militia (still not in your town), they will be identified after the fact, dragged to court and pardoned by whatever puppet is in power then. Afterwards, voter turnout will drop significantly and then magically go up again, with quite implausible results. You will still go voting in your town without any trouble.

That’s not treason, just bad governance. They do need accountability though

by mcmcmc 2mo ago

That’s not treason, just bad governance. They do need accountability though

> not treason, just bad governance ICE is damn close to an organisation of brownshirts. If they fuck with the elections in November, that's an organised effort to use violence to overthrow our Constitutional order. That would be treason. We're not at the point of treason. But we have leaders credibly threatening to commit it. (I'd say Stephen Miller has commited treason. As in try-him-and-hang-him treason.

mcmcmc 2mo ago
Yes it would be, but that hasn’t happened yet.
- bulbar 2mo ago
  And when it happens, you will advocate to bring them to court to judge on their actions a year after it happened? Would be to late then and nobody will effectively be sentenced.
  - mcmcmc 2mo ago
    If it happens, it’s 2A time
    - JumpCrisscross 2mo ago
      > it’s 2A time It’s always 2A time. Nutters committing crimes just go on the docket.
    - krapp 2mo ago
      Oh. that's the red line. OK. Good to know there is one. Weird that it wasn't when Trump supporters were kidnapping people and making bomb threats prior to the election or when they stormed the Capitol to try to kill Pence and force the result. Or even when ICE was being sent out into the streets and kidnapping people and shooting them dead in the street to begin with, and being sent out with National Guard troops to indimidate blue state voters. Or when DOGE ransacked the government and exfiltrated Americans' data to Palantir, which will make interfering with the elections much easier. Or when Trump refused to release the Epstein files. Which has nothing to do with election fraud but I feel like the sitting President being a serial rapist and pedophile defying the DOJ to protect himself and a network of pedophiles within the government should be a bigger deal than it is. If they mess with elections again (because they already tried mind you) then Americans will do something. OK. Good to know.
      - mcmcmc 2mo ago
        Yeah I don’t live in the places where that was/is happening. A small benefit of rural small town living. My rep and senator are both blue and acting it. The red line moves up the easier it is to do something about it.
    - bulbar 2mo ago
      Pretty sure that's not the case. Interfering with the voting process won't happen in your town, or even in most towns, only in carefully selected areas. To, you know, make sure everything is in order and nothing illegal is going on. When it got the news, interference by ICE will be denied, it's all about law and order. Will you then travel 200 miles to fight law enforcement? People won't. At the time of general election there will also be militia (still not in your town), they will be identified after the fact, dragged to court and pardoned by whatever puppet is in power then. Afterwards, voter turnout will drop significantly and then magically go up again, with quite implausible results. You will still go voting in your town without any trouble.