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All of that is true, Google should be winning. We underestimated Google's determination to fail.
by zarzavat 3mo ago
All of that is true, Google should be winning. We underestimated Google's determination to fail.
- weatherlite 3mo agoIs it failing ? Take a look at the stock price
- Filligree 3mo agoTheir stock price won’t matter once OpenAI launches the paperclippers.
- weatherlite 3mo agoNot sure what you mean
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- Cockbrand 3mo agoThis refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence#Paperclip_maximizer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence#Paper.... Here's a popular game based on it: https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
- ShadowOfThePit 3mo agoWhy am I being tricked into playing another cookie clicker
- estimator7292 3mo agoEnron's stock was pretty good, too. Stock price is not a measure of success.
- gniv 2mo agoJust because it is (was) close to all-time high doesn't mean it's high. Look at the P/E[1]. The market does not think it will grow long-term. [1] And yes I know it's artificially lowered due to the mark-to-market gains in investments, but even without those it's low compared to peers.
- ethbr1 3mo agoOne of the most corrosive effects of being large and old (and Google is old by this point) is institutional inertia and individual internal optimization. The former caused by the latter. And the latter a problem once you begin to get executives and leaders who have mostly worked inside the company, because then they subconsciously prefer the Company Way(tm) to alternatives. And Google has some previously-optimal, now-detrimental company ways.
- galangalalgol 3mo agoIs Gemini really that bad? I mean, I would always prefer anthropic for agentic coding, and apparently openai has the math thing cornered, but if I'm using ai like a search engine gemini does that just fine. That may be all they were actually aiming for whatever else they say.
- trollbridge 3mo agoIt’s not bad. It’s just not better than other models. It’s very much in the same class as Grok, Cursor Grok Build, etc.
- WarmWash 3mo agoIt's vision capabilities are still top notch, and it seems pretty natural that most everyday human users are going to want strong vision over strong language/coding.
- wongarsu 2mo agoIf you need a less censored model that's still pretty smart and capable of some lateral thinking, it's great Same niche as Grok, which is also great at search and less censored. Gemini is maybe a bit smarter and better on long contexts
- scottyah 2mo agoGemini works amazingly well, and is better suited for most use cases. When most people speak of it negatively (especially here), it's just with the task of coding, which is a small subset of what google should be training its AI for.
- lII1lIlI11ll 2mo ago> Is Gemini really that bad? It still produce full-blown hallucinations for me sometimes, even in 2026. The kinds ChatGPT stopped generating by 2025. It is cheap and fast though.
- ghtbircshotbe 3mo agoI feel like the majority of ai use by normal people is through Google search, so that's kind of a win. I'm confused by meta's capex though. Are they planning on becoming a cloud provider, or just throwing money away like with the metaverse?
- WarmWash 3mo agoIn an interview, Zuck said that the cost of not having super intelligent AI is far more than the cost of trying to develop it.
- 0xpgm 3mo agoFrom my understanding (I may be wrong) what is happening now is that frontier labs are doubling down on doing RLHF on their models using the user interaction with their own tools e.g. Anthropic making their models better at producing code with claude code. Perhaps the top Google researchers do not see this kind of narrow focus as a path to more generally beneficial AI technology.