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Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of ev
by nwienert 2mo ago
Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle.
If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?
- terryf 2mo agoThere is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.
- monknomo 2mo agoI think people, broadly, have driven life to be fairer, and that we should continue to do so
- klipt 2mo agoThere are evolutionary benefits to groups that cooperate and improve fairness internally. But if an AI surpasses humans in every way, is there any evolutionary benefit for the AI to cooperate with humans?
- omnimus 2mo agoThe topic was why should only some people benefit from AI. Not why would AI cooperate with humans.
- sortoflog 2mo agoSure, but almost everyone already knows this. It’s not hugely relevant in a discussion about how things could be better.
- fragmede 2mo agoIt says that we have to fight for whatever rights we think how things "should" be, they're not just gonna happen.
- atomicnumber3 2mo agoThis is how you get the french revolution.
- whattheheckheck 2mo ago[flagged]
- miyoji 2mo ago> The universe has no need to be fair. Human societies have a strong need for fairness, however. Unfair societies collapse.
- Someone 2mo ago> Unfair societies collapse. I don’t think we have the data to disprove the stronger claim “societies collapse”, and I don’t think being unfair (whatever that means) makes societies collapse earlier. Did slavery hasten the fall of Rome, for example, or the Gulag the fall of the USSR? As to “whatever that means”, I think that’s hard, if not impossible, to define objectively. Catholic dogma says the Pope is the representative of god, for example, so catholics (less so in modern times, I think) don’t question his decisions. Many would call that unfair, even if the pope would be elected 100% by merit.
- getmoheb 2mo agoI mean of course the universe has no need to be fair - that's a frankly asinine observation in the context of a discussion about social policy and resource distribution. the universe doesn't require opposition to slavery either but I'll be bold and assume you oppose it anyway
- aerodexis 2mo agoin addition, there is also "stupid" and "not stupid"