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Gemini 3 Pro was legitimately frontier and released 8 1/2 months ago, not 14.
by squidbeak 2mo ago
Gemini 3 Pro was legitimately frontier and released 8 1/2 months ago, not 14.
- GodelNumbering 2mo agoCorrect, but it was preview release. I was referring to GA in my comment.
- clhodapp 2mo agoThat's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated. That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B.
- aleph_minus_one 2mo ago> That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated. > That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B. My experience differs: (conservative) companies like stability, so calling some very new model "Preview" is a good idea to make it clear to the customer that this frontier model should be treated as more experimental than the default offering.
- clhodapp 2mo agoThat's fine, but it should still have the same technical availability level
- ethbr1 2mo agoThe problem at Google is their (lacking) process for Preview -> GA. Maybe it's a consequence of their rigorousness around SRE, but it doesn't seem like there's a plausible and efficient path for that to happen. Ergo, the only competitive options from Google are ever-Preview products.
- clhodapp 2mo agoYup. Adopting a month-old Postgres release is quite aggressive. It's much more prudent to start considering adoption after it's had six to twelve months of battle testing. Adopting a month-old AI model version for new development is the default industry expectation right now. Adopting a six month old model is a recipe for having to migrate to a new one almost immediately, when it hits EOL.
- ragall 2mo agoThe process was, as we were informally told during orientation, that "Preview" means some SVP thinks this has a chance of going over the minimum threshold of 200M worldwide users and is willing to put his weight behind that product, and "GA" means the product has gone over that threshold and will be "supported" until it goes back below the threshold at which point competing SVPs will start sharpening their knives, preparing to stick them in the back of the SVP that is currently in charge of the product.
- notatoad 2mo agoDoes that mean anything at all? They released it. Customers paid for it. Sticking a preview label on it doesn’t change that it was released
- npn 2mo agobtw, GA usually means it is suitable for production, and available globally. the last time a gemini model was available globally in multiple datacenters was gemini 2.0 era.
- aenis 2mo agoUse google pre-ga stuff at your own risk. Fine for POCs and cool demos, absolute misery in scaled prod.
- notatoad 2mo agothat matches my experience with their GA stuff though.
- Analemma_ 2mo agoI mean it was legitimately frontier for all of a week or two, and then OAI and Anthropic made better releases, and then did that several more times over the year. Google’s pace is not cutting it.
- egillie 2mo agoI remember after that release everyone was saying "well obviously google is going to win this, we all knew it, they have the data and the infrastructure"
- marcuschong 2mo agoWhat's more annoying is that so many people say it with a passion. Like it's about their favorite soccer team or something.
- DrewADesign 2mo agoMore like sects of a major religion. Or, a minor and incredibly expensive religion, in this case.
- puzzlingcaptcha 2mo agoTribalism is human nature, for better or (usually) worse.
- DrewADesign 2mo agoAs are mass hysteria dynamics.
- Andrex 2mo agohttps://youtu.be/HTpbpxNc6c0 https://youtu.be/HTpbpxNc6c0 The more things change...
- zarzavat 2mo agoAll of that is true, Google should be winning. We underestimated Google's determination to fail.
- weatherlite 2mo agoIs it failing ? Take a look at the stock price
- ActionHank 2mo ago[flagged]
- mips_avatar 2mo agoIt was inspiring watching the Gemini 3 pro team launch the model and bike away into the sunset never to launch anything again
- enos_feedler 2mo agoIts been inspiring to use it and know that I dont really need much more for all my intents and purposes.
- mountainriver 2mo agoIt was always benchmaxxed
- chaostheory 2mo agoIt’s a good substitute for search, but its effort is so low that it’s near useless for work compared to the other frontier AIs. Gemini focuses so much on response speed that everything else suffers.