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>>no one is forced into these things, I was with you until then - hasn't it been documented over and over again that at least in some of these places people ar
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>>no one is forced into these things,
I was with you until then - hasn't it been documented over and over again that at least in some of these places people are basically slaves, they have their passports taken away, kept in a walled compound and not allowed to leave?
- jsunderland323 2mo agoYup, this is usually the case in pig butchering operations iirc.
- UnreachableCode 2mo agoWhat, if I assume we're employing nicknames here, is a pig butchering operation?
- aswegs8 2mo agoSome kind of romance scam. Look it up.
- shevy-java 2mo agoBut what do pigs have to do with any of that?
- pxtail 2mo agoIt's just analogy which is useful to depict process well: pig needs to be fed and taken care of for some time before it's butchered
- wongarsu 2mo agoI'd assume because pigs have to be fattened before slaughter. At the small scale by literally throwing them scraps (pigs eat nearly anything edible). Meanwhile in a pig butchering scam you have emotionally desperate people (who often would go for figurative scraps) being fed fake romance before being slaughtered (having a lot of money extracted from them, which usually ends in the end of the fake relationship as results don't materialize for the victim, e.g. the lover not showing up)
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- joenot443 2mo agoIt’s an English translation of a Chinese phrase. The method began in China before it came to the west. “shā zhū pán (杀猪盘) translates literally to "killing pig plate" or "pig slaughter table”.
- markovs_gun 2mo agoBecause when you buy a live pig, you don't just slaughter and eat it right away, you have to fatten it up over a period of time and then you slaughter it and have a feast. A typical scam is more like fishing, where you catch a fish and then eat it right away. Pig butchering requires a prolonged relationship with the victim to get a higher payout for more work.
- inigyou 2mo agoAny scam where the scammer maintains a long-term relationship with the victim - fattening them up - before suddenly taking all their money. For example a romance scam where the scammer pretends to be your girlfriend who loves you for 6 months and then asks for money to cover an emergency. Or a stock market scam that might even pay out small profits before convincing you to go all in.
- biztos 2mo agoI read it as asserting that unlike in Asia, people do this work willingly. Which I don't actually believe: if you couldn't find qualified people for this work in Cambodia, how are you going to find them in Africa?
- evolighting 2mo agoAccording to some news report """ The global spread of the syndicates’ operations has been driven in part by pressure from authorities in Southeast Asia. A major crackdown on scam centres in Myanmar this year, pushed by Beijing, led to around 7,000 workers from at least two dozen countries being freed. But the UN report warns that while such efforts disrupt the scam gangs’ immediate activities, they have shown themselves able to adapt and relocate swiftly. ‘It spreads like a cancer,’ UNODC’s Hoffman said. ‘Authorities treat it in one area, but the roots never disappear, they simply migrate.’ """ These criminals may even belong to the same groups that were targeted by law enforcement in Southeast Asia. they do not actually need to recruit local people. They only need to use advertisements for high-paying “overseas jobs” to attract people with the necessary technical skills and capabilities.
- madradavid 2mo agoWhat I meant is in a lot of these compounds in Africa the “workers” are doing this willingly, it is a Job like a 9-5, these are locals who go there to get trained to do this. In other places like Malaysia, Cambodia most of these people ( usually foreigners) are enticed into these Jobs , they get to these countries with the promise of normal employment and find themselves forced into this. In many of the African countries these are now locals working in Chinese companies, trained by Chinese and protected by corrupt government officials.
- joenot443 2mo agoMy understanding is that while the stories of foreigners being kidnapped to work in a pig butchering compound are much more likely to make international news, the reality on the ground is that the vast majority of people working these scams are not slaves. They are employees in a criminal syndicate.