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The litmus test is this: do you enjoy consuming AI-generated stuff? I don’t. Whether it’s written text, or video, audio, restaurant menus, clothing pictures, d

The litmus test is this: do you enjoy consuming AI-generated stuff? I don’t. Whether it’s written text, or video, audio, restaurant menus, clothing pictures, documentation, airport control, ads… I do think there’s value in LLMs but as a sort of better search engines and q/a machines.

kuboble 2mo ago
To be fair. I hate slop as much as any other person. But for me the issue is poor quality rather than just the fact that it's ai. I love good ai stuff even if it's obvious it's ai
- lotsofpulp 2mo ago
  The problem becomes how to sift through it all to see what is and isn’t good. It was already hard enough with human generated crap to avoid wasting time on the pseudoscience, fabricated data, clickbait/ragebait, and product placement.
cyanregiment 2mo ago
You enjoy good AI all the time you just don’t know it. Nobody enjoys bad 1-shot AI.
- Forgeties79 2mo ago
  Nobody likes having their time routinely wasted by lazy copy/pasting of ChatGPT outputs, which is what too many people do.
- darkerside 2mo ago
  Reminds me of CGI in movies. People who hate CGI really only hate bad CGI.
  - Planktonne 2mo ago
    This has been a thought-terminating cliché for years, but actually the conversation around this has been incredibly consistent despite attempts to dismiss it. People still call back to the days of practical effects as more visceral and more convincing because they were. CGI can be great, but it's so often an excuse to cut corners, and people recognise that.
    - Forgeties79 2mo ago
      Very applicable to LLM’s
    - richardfulop 2mo ago
      I think this is worth leaving here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxQLHlu95I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxQLHlu95I
      - Forgeties79 2mo ago
        That was really cool. Really surprised it doesn’t have more views. I understand it’s a little niche, but 45000 doesn’t do it justice
    - darkerside 2mo ago
      > thought-terminating cliché It was not intended as such, which I think you agree with. My aim was to turn it on its head here and strengthen all of our understandings of both AI and CGI through their common characteristics.
melezhik 2mo ago
I consider AI generated stuff as a raw material , never as a product ready to be consumed by any public clients
chii 2mo ago
> do you enjoy consuming AI-generated stuff? you might be in the minority, because a lot of people don't care for low quality, as long as it "works". The same effect happened with consumer appliances/products, software and fast foods. There's a minimum standard/threshold that must be met, but sooner or later, the AI generating these output can meet them (even if it doesnt right now). Therefore, at some point in the future, ai output will dominate man made ones, whether you want to or not. You will still have a chance at purchasing manually created product/service, just like you could today with handcrafted goods (at exorbitant prices compared to the cheap manufactured goods available).
zulban 2mo ago
People are spending billions of dollars a month in aggregate because yes, they do like it.
- bjacobel 2mo ago
  People? Or corporations?
- brazukadev 2mo ago
  oh! so openai is profitable? I missed this huge milestone. /s

kuboble 2mo ago

To be fair. I hate slop as much as any other person. But for me the issue is poor quality rather than just the fact that it's ai. I love good ai stuff even if it's obvious it's ai

lotsofpulp 2mo ago
The problem becomes how to sift through it all to see what is and isn’t good. It was already hard enough with human generated crap to avoid wasting time on the pseudoscience, fabricated data, clickbait/ragebait, and product placement.

cyanregiment 2mo ago

You enjoy good AI all the time you just don’t know it. Nobody enjoys bad 1-shot AI.

Forgeties79 2mo ago
Nobody likes having their time routinely wasted by lazy copy/pasting of ChatGPT outputs, which is what too many people do.
darkerside 2mo ago
Reminds me of CGI in movies. People who hate CGI really only hate bad CGI.
- Planktonne 2mo ago
  This has been a thought-terminating cliché for years, but actually the conversation around this has been incredibly consistent despite attempts to dismiss it. People still call back to the days of practical effects as more visceral and more convincing because they were. CGI can be great, but it's so often an excuse to cut corners, and people recognise that.
  - Forgeties79 2mo ago
    Very applicable to LLM’s
  - richardfulop 2mo ago
    I think this is worth leaving here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxQLHlu95I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxQLHlu95I
    - Forgeties79 2mo ago
      That was really cool. Really surprised it doesn’t have more views. I understand it’s a little niche, but 45000 doesn’t do it justice
  - darkerside 2mo ago
    > thought-terminating cliché It was not intended as such, which I think you agree with. My aim was to turn it on its head here and strengthen all of our understandings of both AI and CGI through their common characteristics.

melezhik 2mo ago

I consider AI generated stuff as a raw material , never as a product ready to be consumed by any public clients

chii 2mo ago

> do you enjoy consuming AI-generated stuff? you might be in the minority, because a lot of people don't care for low quality, as long as it "works". The same effect happened with consumer appliances/products, software and fast foods. There's a minimum standard/threshold that must be met, but sooner or later, the AI generating these output can meet them (even if it doesnt right now). Therefore, at some point in the future, ai output will dominate man made ones, whether you want to or not. You will still have a chance at purchasing manually created product/service, just like you could today with handcrafted goods (at exorbitant prices compared to the cheap manufactured goods available).

zulban 2mo ago

People are spending billions of dollars a month in aggregate because yes, they do like it.

bjacobel 2mo ago
People? Or corporations?
brazukadev 2mo ago
oh! so openai is profitable? I missed this huge milestone. /s