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That’s Matrix. Matrix has spent too much time chasing Discord, with spaces, and group video chat, and email with federation. And too much time chasing Slack wit

by pkulak 2mo ago

That’s Matrix. Matrix has spent too much time chasing Discord, with spaces, and group video chat, and email with federation. And too much time chasing Slack with threads. But everything you mentioned is core Matrix chat and works great on every client.

fedpost 2mo ago
Yeah, it's a frustrating situation because we have hundreds of people and the constant state-sync issues and assorted account problems are making it hard for non-technical people to participate.
20k 2mo ago
Matrix still doesn't have a client with built in push to talk as far as I'm aware. The relevant issue on the Element github has been sat there for 8 years now It does not seem like a serious project, at least not one being developed by folks who have user experience in mind
- solarkraft 2mo ago
  Same for multi-account support in Element Desktop. However: The new breed of clients (Element X) has this, along with many other improvements. This is probably what the happy user featured in the article was using. They recently (in the last few years) started to focus on UX, with what I would call some success.
- tcfhgj 2mo ago
  They had more important user experience things to work on than push to talk (no offense)
- tim-projects 2mo ago
  I've never used matrix for more than 10 minutes, but I'd like to counter this with WhatsApp. WhatsApp has a swipe up to talk. This feature when used in a group effectively sends audio from you walking in your pocket to potentially thousands of people. Internet groups are littered with complaints about this feature. But there is no way to turn it off and meta appears to not give a sh*t. So, I'm not sure you can really argue that Matrix is not serious when that is the competition.
panick21_ 2mo ago
I disagree. All these things are pretty needed. They had a lot of other projects ongoing that they spent time one, like full time developers for VR and a bunch of other things. But overall its just a tricky thing to run a project like this.
ezst 2mo ago
Core matrix is still an insanely complex and clunky protocol that's still struggling to stabilize and scale after more than a decade. That's not on spaces , threads or video-chats (which are mostly client-side features).

by pkulak 2mo ago

fedpost 2mo ago

Yeah, it's a frustrating situation because we have hundreds of people and the constant state-sync issues and assorted account problems are making it hard for non-technical people to participate.

20k 2mo ago

Matrix still doesn't have a client with built in push to talk as far as I'm aware. The relevant issue on the Element github has been sat there for 8 years now It does not seem like a serious project, at least not one being developed by folks who have user experience in mind

solarkraft 2mo ago
Same for multi-account support in Element Desktop. However: The new breed of clients (Element X) has this, along with many other improvements. This is probably what the happy user featured in the article was using. They recently (in the last few years) started to focus on UX, with what I would call some success.
tcfhgj 2mo ago
They had more important user experience things to work on than push to talk (no offense)
tim-projects 2mo ago
I've never used matrix for more than 10 minutes, but I'd like to counter this with WhatsApp. WhatsApp has a swipe up to talk. This feature when used in a group effectively sends audio from you walking in your pocket to potentially thousands of people. Internet groups are littered with complaints about this feature. But there is no way to turn it off and meta appears to not give a sh*t. So, I'm not sure you can really argue that Matrix is not serious when that is the competition.

panick21_ 2mo ago

I disagree. All these things are pretty needed. They had a lot of other projects ongoing that they spent time one, like full time developers for VR and a bunch of other things. But overall its just a tricky thing to run a project like this.

ezst 2mo ago

Core matrix is still an insanely complex and clunky protocol that's still struggling to stabilize and scale after more than a decade. That's not on spaces , threads or video-chats (which are mostly client-side features).