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Premier league bans gambling sponsors
- JumpinJack_Cash 2mo ago[flagged]
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- whateveracct 2mo agosports gambling? yeah it is
- orphereus 2mo agoCare to elaborate?
- 7777777phil 2mo ago> and three clubs (Sunderland, Nottingham Forest, and Chelsea) currently without a front-of-shirt sponsor as a direct or indirect consequence. Chelsea not having a front of shirt sponsor is completely unrelated. Their last sponsor was Three (the phone company) ant that was 2023 or so
- nly 2mo agoUnfortunately this means crypto will just take over completely.
- xinayder 2mo agoCrypto is less worse than gambling and sports bets.
- Synthetic7346 2mo agoHow so?
- xinayder 2mo agoBets try to engage with the user, crypto ads don't have a call to action or journalists saying "hey you can get X BTC if you bet that there will be a red card in the next 5 minutes".
- KellyCriterion 2mo ago...and prices are not that high currently, also transaction volume on most exchanges is by far near a peak...
- fancyfredbot 2mo agoIf I'm squeezing enough margin out of my customers that I can afford to sponsor a football team with some of the leftover cash then you probably don't want to deal with me.
- the_sleaze_ 2mo agoTrue enough, but they become Patrons of the Arts in a sense.
- jojomodding 2mo agoFootball was doing fine before this all started. It just multiplied the wages of some people who already earn more per year than I will ever own in a lifetime.
- NooneAtAll3 2mo agoon the other hand, do you know how much it costs to sponsor? maybe it's relatively cheap, but nobody does it because football fans isn't that of a target
- bluGill 2mo agoI don't know about this sport, but in other large sports it can costs millions per year to be a sponsor.
- dfxm12 2mo agoIt varies, but in any case, I doubt it's cheap relative to much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_sponsorship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_sponsorship
- Avshalom 2mo agoAbout half of those kit numbers are less per year than a single 30 second ad during the superbowl.
- Hugsbox 2mo agoTitle doesn't appear to be entirely accurate - it would seem they can still have gambling sponsors but can only wear their logos on the sleeves and training kit.
- InsideOutSanta 2mo agoIt's a step in the right direction, and at this point I'm happy for every improvement we get in our current gambling hellscape.
- Hugsbox 2mo ago100% agree, it's a great step, the title is just misleading.
- tclancy 2mo agoEverton to be deducted 9 points. Even though we moved Stake to the sleeves this year.
- htrp 2mo agounclear if the article says that prediction markets are gambling, otherwise this is a massive loophole
- raffa667 2mo agoSame happened in Italy, so all betting sites turned into "news" site so you would have teams being spored by "betting_company_name news". Useless. There's a proposal to be back to previous type of sponsorship.
- danesparza 2mo agoPerhaps they should ban news sites that cover gambling.
- riffraff 2mo agoit's a cat and mouse thing, but the truth is that there is no will to actually do it, because the party who championed this has since moved to other things, and clubs _want_ the money from betting companies because they're struggling to keep up with other leagues (especially since those sponsors _are_ allowed in other leagues).
- donbox 2mo ago"Keep up with other leagues" - is it to pay the top-rated players ?
- randysalami 2mo agoParty!!!
- Vedor 2mo agoIt is. And while it is true that Italian Serie A struggles to be financially competitive with other top leagues, the important "detail" to keep in mind is that no football league is financially competitive with Premier League, and the gap only grows bigger and bigger every year. Edit: also stadiums, but issues with building new stadiums are often caused by bureaucracy. Also the deals from bettong sites are not that great to be deciding factor of club can build a new stadium or not.
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- altmanaltman 2mo agothey literally did not though? just cant have it front and center on the shirt. its like a slow march towards a higher moral ground
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- TheqO 2mo agoI am surprised. Why? well The Uk has two main parties, one of which runs gambling as a way to raise funds... https://lottery.conservatives.com https://lottery.conservatives.com
- dijit 2mo agoI'm british. The way that gambling companies target the poorest of society feels disgustingly predatory. You can often tell the average income of an area based on how many betfreds and paddy powers there are on the high street.
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- rorylawless 2mo agoBefore leaving Britain, I lived in an area that had a ~50% poverty rate. The number of betting shops, small and large brands, just on the local high street alone was ridiculous. It reduced somewhat as gambling has moved online, however there is clearly still money to be made in bricks and mortar gambling.
- dofm 2mo agoNew Labour did that with gambling deregulation. Betting shops have begun to disappear not just because of moving online, but because regulations have finally limited the pernicious power of the fixed-odds betting terminal (FOBT). They were so disgustingly, vampirically profitable they were reason alone to open betting shops in small premises; two members of staff and four FOBTs and any small shop rakes it in. Now they finally do not make enough profit for that to be worth it. Oddly, betting shops aren't in any planning categories and AFAIK never have been, so whenever you see one, it was specifically and individually approved. Which should tell you a thing or two about the uncomfortable overlap between small-scale commercial landlords and councillors.
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- clickety_clack 2mo agoFinally! There is no worse scourge on society. Bookies are parasites.
- physicsguy 2mo agoUnless they stop blasting the ads aimed at international markets e.g. "Premier Chinese Gaming Partner" around all the boards in the game this is very small fry in practice.
- empath75 2mo agoI think sports gambling should be legal _and regulated_, just like a lot of other vices, and one of those regulations _absolutely has to be_ a complete firewall between sports betting and the business of sports. No sponsorship deals with players, stadiums, teams, leagues, broadcasts, anything else related to sports. We banned tobacco advertising, and that had tremendously positive societal results without banning tobacco. Yes, that will make it harder for them to connect to customers and _that is the point_.
- afavour 2mo agoSports gambling in the UK has been legal for a long time. I remember as a kid the bookies (shops where you had to go to make a bet) weren’t allowed any exterior windows and all looked absolutely grim. It was an appropriate barrier to have to cross in order to gamble. But today’s online gambling has broken all that down. It’s too accessible.
- piltdownman 2mo agoAgain, there's a lot of nuance here that has been beautifully articulated to great comic effect 40 years ago - and very little has changed regarding the aims, motives and consequences. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074qvc https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074qvc Yes Prime Minister, Season 1 Episode 3 'The Smoke Screen' The Proposal: Health minister Dr. Peter Thorn proposes a total ban on all cigarette advertising, point-of-sale displays, and sports sponsorship, alongside massive tax hikes. The Conflict: Sir Humphrey Appleby defends the tobacco industry, arguing that smokers are "national benefactors" because tobacco tax funds the National Health Service and early deaths save the state money on pensions. The Motive: Prime Minister Jim Hacker backs the anti-smoking campaign not purely for health, but as a clever diversion and weapon to force the Treasury to concede on his separate plans for tax cut
- piltdownman 2mo agoAramco was the most prominent sponsor in the World Cup, and Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan owns Man City and was subject to a campaign calling on the English Premier League to hold Mansour to account for the UAE's role in the war in Sudan. Shades of grey, but I'll take the gambling companies any day of the week.
- lenerdenator 2mo agoSame needs to happen in the US with our sports leagues. Then we need to make it something you can only do while physically present at a sports book. I feel so sorry for the recovering gambling addicts who want to watch a game these days. You hit rock bottom, you put in the work, you start to pick yourself back up, and some d-bag starts blasting ads for gambling on your phone at every opportunity.
- ElProlactin 2mo agoYou're asking the US to do what is un-American. American culture is deeply individualistic. From a cultural perspective, a person who fails in their recovery from addiction is seen, ultimately, as being responsible for their failure. They'd typically be criticized for being weak and undisciplined, even if the fake kindness of American culture prevents most people from saying that out loud.
- bluGill 2mo agoThe 18th amendment disagrees. While there is a large "your own fault" for things like this, there is also a large "you shouldn't be allowed to do some stupid things".
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- ElProlactin 2mo agoCiting the 18th Amendment, which not only failed to stop the sale of alcoholic beverages but led to the creation of a massive black market, as a rebuttal to the fact that America is a highly individualistic culture in which people are largely considered responsible for their inability to regulate their own behavior, is very strange.
- bluGill 2mo agoThe 18th amendment proves that were are not that individualistic. If we were we never would have passed it. The 18th amendment didn't stop the sale of alcohol, but it greatly reduced those sales. It did lead to a black market, but it overall did succeed in the aims of the supporters even if it wasn't perfect. Of course the supporters were not as numerous as they thought they were and so it was rolled back.
- MilkingCowboy49 2mo agoFinally!
- MilkingCowboy49 2mo agoFinally! I hope these betting sites will vanish.
- hackeraccount 2mo agoWanna bet?
- whoamii 2mo agoAbsolutely not! But I’m happy to predict…
- shermantanktop 2mo agoI bet your prediction, whatever it is, will be accurate!
- bastard_op 2mo agoThey turned themselves into whores for sale to the highest bidder. I imagine if they could, cocaine brands would be on everyone's shirts and tattoo's on players foreheads. Silly people still care about this crap.
- j45 2mo agoLong overdue. Seeing this in sports the past few years has been so odd.
- peter_retief 2mo agoGambling feeds on human misery, it should never be normalized, they made the right decision.
- tacocataco 2mo agoWouldn't the real solution be to work on making life less miserable for the working class?
- jojomodding 2mo agoYes. One way to do so is by eradicating gambling (or at least the ads for it). People will never be 100% happy, all the time. And gambling (like many other companies) prey on people in the moments where they feel down.
- danw1979 2mo agoNow do the rest of the football league !
- viqash12 2mo agoFantastic news!
- JumpinJack_Cash 2mo agoGambling on sports is the only field in which you can make money by having people think the opposite of what you think and you have a deadline by which the market has to resolve so you can avoid going bankrupt in the long wait for market to reconcile with reality as it happens in the stock market . Bookies are bad they find ways to avoid paying all the times, exchanges are good And the act itself , meaning wagering on athletes competing is almost as old as sex and prostitution and all the hopes to regulate it into submission are just as idiotic.
- codeddesign 2mo ago“Finance”? Haha Everyone has CMC Markets which has the headline “Trade with leverage..” What a joke.
- calini 2mo agoRIP Stoke City.