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Because it's not about age at all. That's just ruse to get a lever to lock people out of their devices if they don't behave.

user43928 3mo ago
How would that make sense? If anything, I would imagine that Google's changes are motivated by driving traffic to their Google Play Store, where they make billions in commissions. Once this framework is in place for the Google Play Store, perhaps they can lobby for strict age verification laws, and then tell developers who publish outside of Google Play that they are responsible for compliance themselves.
- shevy-java 3mo ago
  It makes total sense. You here assume that this is only driven by Google. Once you include state actors, suddenly it makes sense. They gather more data now. Only verified users will be able to use the internet in unrestricted ways - that is what is new.
  - user43928 3mo ago
    When there is a clear motivation to protect a $50B/year revenue stream, that seems to be the more likely explanation. If it appeals to politicians who view "protect the children" and surveillance positively, that is a bonus.
- gnoll_of_gozag 3mo ago
  people on discord get sniped semi regularly by fraudulent child exploitation reports
  - warkdarrior 3mo ago
    And these Discord child exploitation reports are sent to Google? And Google enforces them by locking down the user's Android phone?
roysting 3mo ago
It's amazing how naive and gullible people are even after all the many thousands of examples of lies and gaslighting over many generations now. It seems to be a permanent characteristic of a certain subset of people, and seemingly a majority of people, at least in the west and at least in this era. It always gives me the "he only beats me because he loves me" or "he wouldn't beat me if I knew how to behave better" vibes. It's not healthy, not sane, not rational. One disagreement though; I don't even think they will lock people out of their devices outside of very narrow and specific instances or examples to "cut the grass" as the Israelis call it, to scare and remind people they are the slaves and the long arm of the tyranny can reach out and crush them if they don't self-censor and self-subjugate. Psychological and ideological control has very much proved itself far more effective than physical control in all circumstances. They want to be able to monitor and then use methods and technologies to control that have not really come to light in society even thought they were systematized through the Iraq war. You are now the "insurgents", are you old enough to remember those, those insurgents in their own country?

user43928 3mo ago

How would that make sense? If anything, I would imagine that Google's changes are motivated by driving traffic to their Google Play Store, where they make billions in commissions. Once this framework is in place for the Google Play Store, perhaps they can lobby for strict age verification laws, and then tell developers who publish outside of Google Play that they are responsible for compliance themselves.

shevy-java 3mo ago
It makes total sense. You here assume that this is only driven by Google. Once you include state actors, suddenly it makes sense. They gather more data now. Only verified users will be able to use the internet in unrestricted ways - that is what is new.
- user43928 3mo ago
  When there is a clear motivation to protect a $50B/year revenue stream, that seems to be the more likely explanation. If it appeals to politicians who view "protect the children" and surveillance positively, that is a bonus.
gnoll_of_gozag 3mo ago
people on discord get sniped semi regularly by fraudulent child exploitation reports
- warkdarrior 3mo ago
  And these Discord child exploitation reports are sent to Google? And Google enforces them by locking down the user's Android phone?

roysting 3mo ago

It's amazing how naive and gullible people are even after all the many thousands of examples of lies and gaslighting over many generations now. It seems to be a permanent characteristic of a certain subset of people, and seemingly a majority of people, at least in the west and at least in this era. It always gives me the "he only beats me because he loves me" or "he wouldn't beat me if I knew how to behave better" vibes. It's not healthy, not sane, not rational. One disagreement though; I don't even think they will lock people out of their devices outside of very narrow and specific instances or examples to "cut the grass" as the Israelis call it, to scare and remind people they are the slaves and the long arm of the tyranny can reach out and crush them if they don't self-censor and self-subjugate. Psychological and ideological control has very much proved itself far more effective than physical control in all circumstances. They want to be able to monitor and then use methods and technologies to control that have not really come to light in society even thought they were systematized through the Iraq war. You are now the "insurgents", are you old enough to remember those, those insurgents in their own country?