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> 2 - there is no way openai did not train the model to conduct attacks like these. i would really like openai to comment on the post training of this model but

by xg15 3mo ago

> 2 - there is no way openai did not train the model to conduct attacks like these. i would really like openai to comment on the post training of this model but they probably won't, eh? Even if they wanted, I'm not sure they'd be even allowed to or if that kind of postmortem would be classified in the name of "national security"...

0xDEAFBEAD 3mo ago
Hopefully there will be a criminal investigation. Or the government will create some sort of agency to investigate incidents like this.
- quinnjh 3mo ago
  Can't tell if you're joking or not - krebs on security may have some notes here.
  - 0xDEAFBEAD 3mo ago
    Criminal negligence seems like a real possibility to me. I'm not sure what Krebs on Security post you're referring to?
- BonerWiener 3mo ago
  > Or the government will create some sort of agency to investigate incidents like this I doubt that the government would try to hinder any western AI companies.
  - eru 3mo ago
    > I doubt that the government would try to hinder any western AI companies. Compare and contrast https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access
- jasonfarnon 3mo ago
  I agree but prosecutions are up to prosecutors/the executive and the problem is at this level the decision is mostly political. The executive gets leverage over openAI, and openAI knows the threat of prosecution is there, and that may be more valuable (to decision-makers) than any reason to prosecute.
- paxys 3mo ago
  Plenty of existing agencies could claim jurisdiction on this. Ultimately the outcome will be decided by the white house (hint: nothing will happen).
- queenkjuul 3mo ago
  Seriously. A guy I knew got charged with federal hacking charges for reporting an insecure database he found on his own school's infrastructure to the school. OpenAI commits felony computer crime but as usual, always an exception for a big corporation

by xg15 3mo ago

0xDEAFBEAD 3mo ago

Hopefully there will be a criminal investigation. Or the government will create some sort of agency to investigate incidents like this.

quinnjh 3mo ago
Can't tell if you're joking or not - krebs on security may have some notes here.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 3mo ago
  Criminal negligence seems like a real possibility to me. I'm not sure what Krebs on Security post you're referring to?
BonerWiener 3mo ago
> Or the government will create some sort of agency to investigate incidents like this I doubt that the government would try to hinder any western AI companies.
- eru 3mo ago
  > I doubt that the government would try to hinder any western AI companies. Compare and contrast https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access
jasonfarnon 3mo ago
I agree but prosecutions are up to prosecutors/the executive and the problem is at this level the decision is mostly political. The executive gets leverage over openAI, and openAI knows the threat of prosecution is there, and that may be more valuable (to decision-makers) than any reason to prosecute.
paxys 3mo ago
Plenty of existing agencies could claim jurisdiction on this. Ultimately the outcome will be decided by the white house (hint: nothing will happen).
queenkjuul 3mo ago
Seriously. A guy I knew got charged with federal hacking charges for reporting an insecure database he found on his own school's infrastructure to the school. OpenAI commits felony computer crime but as usual, always an exception for a big corporation