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See also: https://ansel.photos/en/ https://ansel.photos/en/

by e12e 2mo ago

TheqO 2mo ago
Ansel is what Darktable 4.0 could have been if it didn’t die of feature creep . Between 2020 and 2023, Darktable has suffered massive code additions of peripheral features, often ill-coded, poorly designed and penalizing usability, performance and maintenance. Too many workarounds failed to fix bugs, but layered new problems on top of legacy code : welcome in maintenance nightmare. They got beef!
- lukah 2mo ago
  Right?! And the rest of the README continues like that. Must be some juicy history here
  - Mashimo 2mo ago
    And I think this was a few years back. Imagine still having that in your readme.
- esafak 2mo ago
  I'm digging their Sentry charts. That's the kind of discipline we need more of. Stability is a feature.
- e12e 2mo ago
  There's a lot of well reasoned, but pretty caustic, developer blog notes for the project. Refreshing breath of honest air, imnho. I don't agree with the author in all things, but I enjoy how well and directly they express their viewpoints.
GordonS 2mo ago
Looks interesting - does it have better library management than DarkTable?
lolc 2mo ago
I used Ansel for a while, and I agree that Darktable is suffering from feature creep. Ansel right away had some usability improvements. But the amount of regressions introduced was wild. The anger you can read in the messaging was apparently also employed to cut code, and things got flaky. In the end some features I used stopped working in all releases I tried, and I went back to Darktable. Maybe Ansel is stabilizing now, and I should try again.
- l8rlump 2mo ago
  Yes it is stabilising, IME. I’d recommend trying again.
lionkor 2mo ago
Look at some of the docs about what changed, reading things like this: > This is basically admitting that the design is so terrible that it’s verging on unsable without reading the doc. But wait, what are we doing again ? We are copying pictures. We are copying pictures ? So did you pass your picture-copying exam and got your picture-copying degree ? If you didn’t, you should. Watch out, they might turn this into a quizz in a future version and disable the feature if you fail it. As a software engineer, I understand this, but the tone also deeply bothers me. I want to use tools made by people who enjoy working on it, not by people working on it out of spite and hate for upstream. Just make a better product. I don't understand the need to constantly shit on darktable.

See also: https://ansel.photos/en/ https://ansel.photos/en/

by e12e 2mo ago

See also: https://ansel.photos/en/ https://ansel.photos/en/

TheqO 2mo ago

Ansel is what Darktable 4.0 could have been if it didn’t die of feature creep . Between 2020 and 2023, Darktable has suffered massive code additions of peripheral features, often ill-coded, poorly designed and penalizing usability, performance and maintenance. Too many workarounds failed to fix bugs, but layered new problems on top of legacy code : welcome in maintenance nightmare. They got beef!

lukah 2mo ago
Right?! And the rest of the README continues like that. Must be some juicy history here
- Mashimo 2mo ago
  And I think this was a few years back. Imagine still having that in your readme.
esafak 2mo ago
I'm digging their Sentry charts. That's the kind of discipline we need more of. Stability is a feature.
e12e 2mo ago
There's a lot of well reasoned, but pretty caustic, developer blog notes for the project. Refreshing breath of honest air, imnho. I don't agree with the author in all things, but I enjoy how well and directly they express their viewpoints.

GordonS 2mo ago

Looks interesting - does it have better library management than DarkTable?

lolc 2mo ago

I used Ansel for a while, and I agree that Darktable is suffering from feature creep. Ansel right away had some usability improvements. But the amount of regressions introduced was wild. The anger you can read in the messaging was apparently also employed to cut code, and things got flaky. In the end some features I used stopped working in all releases I tried, and I went back to Darktable. Maybe Ansel is stabilizing now, and I should try again.

l8rlump 2mo ago
Yes it is stabilising, IME. I’d recommend trying again.

lionkor 2mo ago

Look at some of the docs about what changed, reading things like this: > This is basically admitting that the design is so terrible that it’s verging on unsable without reading the doc. But wait, what are we doing again ? We are copying pictures. We are copying pictures ? So did you pass your picture-copying exam and got your picture-copying degree ? If you didn’t, you should. Watch out, they might turn this into a quizz in a future version and disable the feature if you fail it. As a software engineer, I understand this, but the tone also deeply bothers me. I want to use tools made by people who enjoy working on it, not by people working on it out of spite and hate for upstream. Just make a better product. I don't understand the need to constantly shit on darktable.