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If I understand correctly, NY is concerned about the power and water consumption. 1. How do they get power in space? (solar) Do the same on earth at 1/100 the c
by hahajk 2mo ago
If I understand correctly, NY is concerned about the power and water consumption.
1. How do they get power in space? (solar) Do the same on earth at 1/100 the cost (or build 50x the number of solar to account for atmospheric loss and you will still come out ahead)
2. How do they get water in space (they don't). Whatever they do in space to not need water, do the same on earth!
3. People don't like living near datacenters - put them in remote areas hundreds of miles away from people, after all space datacenters won't have employees . Again, at 1/100 or 1/1000 the cost.
- xyzzyz 2mo agoThe point is that while power and water is scarce in space, the NY state has no jurisdiction there. It might literally be easier to build data center in space than it is to overcome social and political pressure in NY.
- Dylan16807 2mo agoIt's extremely unlikely that companies will find no locations that let them build zero power zero water data centers. And bulk AI stuff isn't latency sensitive either so the acceptable build radius is huge.
- lokar 2mo agoExactly. This whole thing is not about being able to build whatever they can afford, it’s about being in a (stupid) race to build it as fast as possible.
- Dylan16807 2mo agoEven for ultimate speed I don't see how it works. Facilities to make and launch satellites add a lot of delays and need their own permits.
- rayiner 2mo agoThe queue to hook up to the Texas grid is 3-5 years long now.
- lokar 2mo agoIt’s long been 2-3 years nationwide (for redundant transmission grid connections).
- Dylan16807 2mo agoGood thing this is about off-grid datacenters.
- rayiner 2mo agoBuilding an off-grid data center is much easier in space where sunlight exposure is predictable and not affected by weather.
- Dylan16807 2mo agoThat's an advantage. "Much easier" overall is quite a claim.
- mayama 2mo agoMost locations that could provide guaranteed power for western companies with stable governments are also full of NIMBY or NGO who could easily blockade those datacenters. Then you'll have to run to offgrid locations where you have to build 24hr battery for solar with closed loop cooling. Is 24hr battery+solar on earth cheaper than LEO satellites in constant sun without batteries? That's the question that would make or break satellite datacenters, as political climate against AI datacenters is increasingly getting bad with increasing electricity prices.
- Dylan16807 2mo ago> Is 24hr battery+solar on earth cheaper than LEO satellites in constant sun without batteries? I'll be shocked if it isn't.
- rayiner 2mo agoCost of a full H100 rack is approaching the price to shoot it into space at $1,500 per kilogram.