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the era of wide spread 'global' web is over. llm crawlers - all they do is take. they craw your content. then give it to users in distilled form in the form of

by dzonga 3mo ago

the era of wide spread 'global' web is over. llm crawlers - all they do is take. they craw your content. then give it to users in distilled form in the form of 'A.I overview' or summarized content. incentives to contribute are gone genuine original content are gone. soon enough majority of the content will be llm generated, it not already. the original content will either be in closed communities e.g discord, mailing lists. hence 'local' maybe video will survive but text/images - no.

spwa4 3mo ago
You'll need something to replace it first. And so many things depend on Google's monopoly, hell, you can't pay taxes in my country without Google's monopoly. At this point, this will simply destroy publishers' business entirely. Which won't stop some of them, but the rest will see what happens and run back to Google. (needed for identification to fill out online taxes which is the only option left)
- frizlab 3mo ago
  How in the (excuse my French) f*ck is your government allowing google to login to do your taxes?? And it is the ONLY option??? I’m flabbergasted, honestly.
  - spwa4 3mo ago
    It's not Google login, it's the Google authenticator being the only practical 2-factor option to login to government services (still annoying, but less so than trying to get one of those calculators that cost 30 euros and haven't been in stock since COVID)
    - crtasm 3mo ago
      There's lots of apps that do TOTP, if that's what you're using it for.
      - frizlab 3mo ago
        Absolutely. Even Apple Passwords does it now (but also a LOT of other apps, including free and open-source ones). google is definitely NOT a dependency here.
rickydroll 3mo ago
Even before the onset of AI, publishers steal copyrighted work from writers and reporters and then turn it into human-generated slop and charge you money for the privilege of being misinformed. Closed communities are not a viable alternative as their content has an even lower signal-to-noise ratio than AI-generated summaries. I have spent hours trying to piece together a reasonable set of answers from shitty searches on various forums and mailing lists. I'll take AI summaries any day over the crap that you can get from forums.

by dzonga 3mo ago

spwa4 3mo ago

You'll need something to replace it first. And so many things depend on Google's monopoly, hell, you can't pay taxes in my country without Google's monopoly. At this point, this will simply destroy publishers' business entirely. Which won't stop some of them, but the rest will see what happens and run back to Google. (needed for identification to fill out online taxes which is the only option left)

frizlab 3mo ago
How in the (excuse my French) f*ck is your government allowing google to login to do your taxes?? And it is the ONLY option??? I’m flabbergasted, honestly.
- spwa4 3mo ago
  It's not Google login, it's the Google authenticator being the only practical 2-factor option to login to government services (still annoying, but less so than trying to get one of those calculators that cost 30 euros and haven't been in stock since COVID)
  - crtasm 3mo ago
    There's lots of apps that do TOTP, if that's what you're using it for.
    - frizlab 3mo ago
      Absolutely. Even Apple Passwords does it now (but also a LOT of other apps, including free and open-source ones). google is definitely NOT a dependency here.

rickydroll 3mo ago

Even before the onset of AI, publishers steal copyrighted work from writers and reporters and then turn it into human-generated slop and charge you money for the privilege of being misinformed. Closed communities are not a viable alternative as their content has an even lower signal-to-noise ratio than AI-generated summaries. I have spent hours trying to piece together a reasonable set of answers from shitty searches on various forums and mailing lists. I'll take AI summaries any day over the crap that you can get from forums.