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That should be illegal. Sounds like a very fraudulent business tactic.
by someguyiguess 2mo ago
That should be illegal. Sounds like a very fraudulent business tactic.
- rcxdude 2mo agoFraudulent, I wouldn't say so. Anti-consumer or anti-competitive? Sounds like.
- 2III7 2mo ago[flagged]
- HPsquared 2mo agoGood old "win-win-lose"
- throw1234567891 2mo agoWould you call a trade-in a fraudulent tactic?
- InsideOutSanta 2mo agoTrade-ins are voluntary.
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- efficax 2mo agoso are buybacks. you choose to sign the contract. there's no way they didn't have an escape clause, although likely it meant not using the cloud provider anymore
- InsideOutSanta 2mo ago> so are buybacks. you choose to sign the contract Right, so they're not voluntary.
- anomaly_ 2mo agoLiterally what? Do you understand what is being proposed?
- InsideOutSanta 2mo agoYes. "You choose to sign the contract" is not a reasonable argument, for two reasons: 1. There is one supplier, so you have no choice. 2. Even if you had a choice to sign the contract, this still means that it's not the same as a trade-in, because trade-ins are always voluntary, but once you have signed the contract, a right of first refusal is not. In general, the "you chose to sign the contract" argument is a poor justification for bad contracts. If the contract is bad, it is bad regardless of whether you chose to sign it.
- lmm 2mo agoTrade ins are fine. A contractual commitment to not buy hardware sounds like illegal restraint of trade.
- brookst 2mo agoHow? It’s a contract. Should I be allowed to pay a landscaper less if I agree to not do part of the work myself? I don’t understand the desire to tell totally anonymous third parties the terms under which they are allowed to deal with each other.
- lmm 2mo ago> It’s a contract Many kinds of contracts are illegal, including those that are anticompetitive in certain ways. > Should I be allowed to pay a landscaper less if I agree to not do part of the work myself? No?
- cyanydeez 2mo agoThe Grift Economy places all legalities on the marks and their inability to form legal fights.
- rbanffy 2mo agoIt’s common for car companies when they enter a new market. It removes uncertainty from the second hand market. By doing that, you know upfront what the value of your used hardware will be at the time you decommission it. It removes a lot of the risk for buyers in a volatile market.
- nl 2mo agoThe hyperscalers signing these contracts have decent legal departments. Think about Oracle for example - I'm pretty sure they know every trick there is about beneficial contract drafting. I don't think they need some special protection against this kind of contract.
- KaiserPro 2mo agoIts restrictive, but not that different from other types of deals. For example, when I worked at a VFX software company, we were exclusively with one hardware partner. This unlocked something like a 50% discount across all our infra needs (they were big enough to provide switches, racks, servers, storage) another company it unlocked a 75% discount.
- lelanthran 2mo ago> That should be illegal. Sounds like a very fraudulent business tactic. a) It's not fraudulent, and b) Nvidia has already signed on to buyback any unused capacity from the DCs it is selling to.
- zenbane 2mo agoit's also cruel. thankfully orgs like www.siliconstrays.com