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"Top talent" - I'm curious, do you really believe this is a normal / proper / desirable way of talking about other people?

ImHereToVote 3mo ago
I'm not OP but I think it is both normal, proper, and desirable.
groundzeros2015 3mo ago
Yes. Highly accountable and responsible people with deep knowledge are rare.
andsoitis 3mo ago
It is logical that there are people who are great at what they do and others who are not. We’ve all worked with both and if you are in the business of finding talented people, how else would you talk about it?
- cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
  "Talented people", not "talent".
  - andsoitis 3mo ago
    That’s a weird thing to be upset and reprimand us about. I suppose one can insist that people say “most talented people” but it seems so much more streamlined and to say “top talent”. I have never come across anyone who is bothered by this. FWIW I am way more bothered by the use of the word “resources” to refer to people. I think it is disgusting and offensive.
    - cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
      Well, then you just did. :)
      - andsoitis 3mo ago
        Nuance is “resources” has the connotation of exploitation whereas “talent” is positive. The former is used to also refer to non-human things like iron ore, but I am not aware that “talent” is ever used to refer to anything other than people. Also, I’m not trying to change people to stop using the word “resources”, even if I am not a fan.
        cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
        > Also, I’m not trying to change people to stop using the word “resources”, even if I am not a fan. I'm not sure why you mention that part. Maybe the text doesn't fully carry your message, so I need to ask: are you proud that you are not trying to change people?
bonoboTP 3mo ago
Sounds a bit like casting lingo in performing arts, but other than that, not sure what you're hinting at.
- derektank 3mo ago
  Yes, “the talent” is waiting out in their trailer and needs you to talk to them
mb7733 3mo ago
... What are you getting at, I'm genuinely curious? What's wrong with the phrase "top talent"!?
- cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
  I don't know, sounds very off putting, just like "resources" in "human resources". I get that this is normalized in all the corporations, but one still can choose to use terms that don't reduce people to "value produced".
  - simianwords 3mo ago
    This is unusually reactive response to normal language.
    - hackable_sand 3mo ago
      "Talented" is normal "Talent" is abusive

ImHereToVote 3mo ago

I'm not OP but I think it is both normal, proper, and desirable.

groundzeros2015 3mo ago

Yes. Highly accountable and responsible people with deep knowledge are rare.

andsoitis 3mo ago

It is logical that there are people who are great at what they do and others who are not. We’ve all worked with both and if you are in the business of finding talented people, how else would you talk about it?

cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
"Talented people", not "talent".
- andsoitis 3mo ago
  That’s a weird thing to be upset and reprimand us about. I suppose one can insist that people say “most talented people” but it seems so much more streamlined and to say “top talent”. I have never come across anyone who is bothered by this. FWIW I am way more bothered by the use of the word “resources” to refer to people. I think it is disgusting and offensive.
  - cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
    Well, then you just did. :)
    - andsoitis 3mo ago
      Nuance is “resources” has the connotation of exploitation whereas “talent” is positive. The former is used to also refer to non-human things like iron ore, but I am not aware that “talent” is ever used to refer to anything other than people. Also, I’m not trying to change people to stop using the word “resources”, even if I am not a fan.
      - cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
        > Also, I’m not trying to change people to stop using the word “resources”, even if I am not a fan. I'm not sure why you mention that part. Maybe the text doesn't fully carry your message, so I need to ask: are you proud that you are not trying to change people?

bonoboTP 3mo ago

Sounds a bit like casting lingo in performing arts, but other than that, not sure what you're hinting at.

derektank 3mo ago
Yes, “the talent” is waiting out in their trailer and needs you to talk to them

mb7733 3mo ago

... What are you getting at, I'm genuinely curious? What's wrong with the phrase "top talent"!?

cyclopeanutopia 3mo ago
I don't know, sounds very off putting, just like "resources" in "human resources". I get that this is normalized in all the corporations, but one still can choose to use terms that don't reduce people to "value produced".
- simianwords 3mo ago
  This is unusually reactive response to normal language.
  - hackable_sand 3mo ago
    "Talented" is normal "Talent" is abusive