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I wonder if they will also go after Google which hosts everything that ThePirateBay does: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eAYXcZa8GdkJ:the

I wonder if they will also go after Google which hosts everything that ThePirateBay does: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eAYXcZa8GdkJ:thepiratebay.se/browse/201/0/7+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eAYXcZa... If you don't use torrents, then you must understand TPB don't use 'torrent files' any more. They use 'magnet links' which are just hyperlinks with the seed info embedded, so when Google caches their pages they cache this info too. You can initiate torrent downloads from that page exactly as you can from ThePirateBay.

jlgreco 14y ago
You can also get a text file filled with a scrap of all the magnet links from TPB. What this effectively means is that with a single 1USD flash drive, you can "infringe" on the copyright (to the same extent that TPB does) of an absolutely unprecedented amount of content, merely by handing that flashdrive to somebody else. Millions of magnet links, at how many million dollars a pop? Insane.
- 178 14y ago
  Relevant: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Kiosk http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Kiosk
zanny 14y ago
Tthey are effectively saying distributing a 160 bit number is effectively illegal. Magnets are just SHA1 hashes of a torrent file. Then again, you could argue any media or program stored is just a really long many-bit number, so I guess we have been making numbers illegal for decades.
- lindenr 14y ago
  Relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number
- sp332 14y ago
  It's not clear that the proxy is being sued for copyright infringement. It might be for "aiding and abetting". After all, driving a car is not illegal, but driving a getaway car for a bank robber is. Or it might even be a civil case in which they claim damages.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  The magnet link is basically a hash of a bunch of hashes of copyrighted content. If distributing that is wrong, is it okay to distribute a hash of many hashes that are all each hashes of hashes of copyrighted content? (The magnet link to a list of magnet links) Suppose I merely mention the name that you can google to find the hash of many hashes of hashes of copyrighted content? I wonder how many layers do we have to add before everyone admits that the situation is absurd?
- Dylan16807 14y ago
  So reword 'number' as 'ID'. Sure, you can't get around content being content by reframing it as a number. But this number is not content. It is solely an identifier. They are trying to make it illegal to mention the ID code of files.

jlgreco 14y ago

You can also get a text file filled with a scrap of all the magnet links from TPB. What this effectively means is that with a single 1USD flash drive, you can "infringe" on the copyright (to the same extent that TPB does) of an absolutely unprecedented amount of content, merely by handing that flashdrive to somebody else. Millions of magnet links, at how many million dollars a pop? Insane.

178 14y ago
Relevant: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Kiosk http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Kiosk

zanny 14y ago

Tthey are effectively saying distributing a 160 bit number is effectively illegal. Magnets are just SHA1 hashes of a torrent file. Then again, you could argue any media or program stored is just a really long many-bit number, so I guess we have been making numbers illegal for decades.

lindenr 14y ago
Relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number
sp332 14y ago
It's not clear that the proxy is being sued for copyright infringement. It might be for "aiding and abetting". After all, driving a car is not illegal, but driving a getaway car for a bank robber is. Or it might even be a civil case in which they claim damages.
jlgreco 14y ago
The magnet link is basically a hash of a bunch of hashes of copyrighted content. If distributing that is wrong, is it okay to distribute a hash of many hashes that are all each hashes of hashes of copyrighted content? (The magnet link to a list of magnet links) Suppose I merely mention the name that you can google to find the hash of many hashes of hashes of copyrighted content? I wonder how many layers do we have to add before everyone admits that the situation is absurd?
Dylan16807 14y ago
So reword 'number' as 'ID'. Sure, you can't get around content being content by reframing it as a number. But this number is not content. It is solely an identifier. They are trying to make it illegal to mention the ID code of files.