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We want Texans to know their rights
- pton_xd 3mo ago"Last May, EFF reported that a sheriff’s office in Texas searched data from more than 83,000 automated license plate reader (ALPR) cameras to track down a woman suspected of self-managing an abortion." These people really have nothing better to do?
- jkahrs595 3mo agoThey literally think they are doing the work of some divine creator. They have plenty of time to ruin the lives of other people because they think it saves their own.
- estearum 3mo agoReally insightful comment. Couldn't agree more. And many of these people really do need their Good Works on the force to do the saving, because God knows what they do to their wives and kids back home.
- SAI_Peregrinus 2mo agoThey also believe in eternal torture as punishment. If someone doesn't accept their god, their god will send that person's soul to hell to be tortured forever. Therefore, essentially anything can be justified to force people to accept their god, since no finite amount of harm can exceed the infinite torture of hell. People who believe that sort of thing are, IMO, extremely evil, and worshiping an evil deity.
- monksy 3mo agoI've got distant family members in law enforcement. They brag about the reach of their equipment to surveil. Yes, they enjoy being overly suspicious.
- estearum 3mo agoSuspicious? The word is abusive. Of the law, of their uniform, of their fellow citizens.
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- JoshTriplett 3mo ago"I was just enforcing the law" is no better than "I was just following orders".
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- amanaplanacanal 3mo agoHow does prosecuting someone for getting an abortion lead to that result?
- G0lg0thvn 3mo agoWho’s that?
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- pebble 3mo agoYou’re putting words into that hypothetical person’s mouth.
- none2585 3mo agoI'm upset every day I'm alive chief not everyone wants to be here
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- BigTTYGothGF 3mo agoEvery minute spent tracking down a lady getting an abortion is a minute not spent tracking down a murderer or a rapist or similar.
- godwinson__4-8 3mo agoThere is no rest for the wicked.
- cucumber3732842 3mo ago>These people really have nothing better to do? Making examples out of some number of unlucky peasants over otherwise trivial deviance that harms nearly nobody is one of the key jobs of men at arms. Now, they may spend more time on "real crime" or collecting taxes by other names, but make no mistake this sort of stuff is stuff they (as an agency) must do if they are to properly serve the interests of their master.
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- MrDrMcCoy 3mo agoAs someone that does, I disagree. Laws on this subject should exclusively apply to providers, with exceptions for medical necessity. There are too many harms that come from targeting individuals to be worthwhile.
- tadfisher 3mo agoProblem with that is that gathering evidence invariably leads to tracking down the recipient of the provider's service.
- MrDrMcCoy 3mo agoNot all problems can or should be solved.
- datadrivenangel 3mo agothis case was a self administrated abortion?
- MrDrMcCoy 3mo agoThe trail of injustice required to bring justice to such a case does not result in a balanced scale.
- gershy 3mo agoSome would argue there are too many harms that occur if antiabortion measures aren't taken :(
- TripolitianFish 3mo agoEither argue the point or stop talking. This is a very hard position to take seriously, twee frowny face and all, if you’re willing to sell down the river the privacy of a largely vulnerable population because some sanctimonious humanism. :(
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- fhdkweig 3mo agoThe above article is https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/we-want-texans-know-their-rights-qa-mayday-health-impact-surveillance-abortion https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/we-want-texans-know-th... . That article links to https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/she-got-abortion-so-texas-cop-used-83000-cameras-track-her-down https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/she-got-abortion-so-te... which links to https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/flock-safety-and-texas-sheriff-claimed-license-plate-search-was-missing-person-it https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/flock-safety-and-texas... The second article states what you are saying, but the third article says that the information given in the second article was a lie.
- dodger-dog 3mo agoThey lie to you constantly and they know it. You are being rage-baited to farm you votes, clicks, views, and likes: According to internal Johnson County Sheriff's Office files released under the Texas Public Information Act, the entire "self-administered abortion" narrative was fabricated by a violent felon: https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article314516231.html https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article31451... https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2026/feb/04/eastern-wa-flock-cameras-were-searched-after-false/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2026/feb/04/eastern-wa-flo... The Ex-Girlfriend's Account: The woman later informed investigators that she had actually suffered a natural miscarriage after her ex-boyfriend physically assaulted her. The False Fetus Evidence: The ex-boyfriend—seeking to deflect blame for the assault—collected a blood clot from the miscarriage, presented it to the police, and lied by claiming his ex-girlfriend had intentionally taken illegal abortion pills to end a pregnancy. https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-police-cameras-used-in-murder-investigation-after-abortion-40604138/ https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-police-cameras-us... The Intent of the Search: The police reports later clarified that while the deputy typed "had an abortion" into the Flock Safety tracking system, they were actually attempting to locate the woman and her children because she was fleeing from this domestic violence situation. Because the initial report was based on a malicious and fabricated claim by an abuser, an official clinical timeline of the pregnancy was never established or verified in the official "death investigation" file.
- paytonjjones 3mo ago> from more than 83,000 automated license plate reader This feels purposefully misleading. Did they manually watch hours and hours of footage, or is this the equivalent of "I searched an online corpus of hundreds of millions of documents" (I Googled it)
- cosmicgadget 3mo agoDoesn't feel misleading at all, "searched data from" is pretty much your "I Googled it" without branding. The inclusion of 83,000 seems more intended to quantify the scope of the surveillance accessible to these sheriffs.
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- morkalork 3mo agoSure, call it that. They Googled it on their comperensive, nation-wide, unlimited access, fully indexed and integrated surveillance network (with 83,000 edge nodes)
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- Trasmatta 3mo agoIt's no longer safe to even use a period tracking app in many US states now. The women I know are all cautioning each other to go back to pen and paper, and ditch anything app based.
- jmclnx 3mo agoMost of us here knows ways around this, but many people are not educated. One method is get off your smart phone and boot tails and do the searches there. Maybe that is something EFF can make known. Like list trusted onion sites that have information where women can go and get help.
- dodger-dog 3mo agoYou boot tails to track your period?
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- jonhohle 3mo agoApple offers this in Health and it stays on device or encrypted in backups. I’m not sure why anyone would want this in the cloud.
- Cider9986 3mo agoCorrect and you shouldn't use any health apps that don't take your privacy seriously. Here are privacy respecting ones: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/health-and-wellness/#menstrual-cycle-tracking https://www.privacyguides.org/en/health-and-wellness/#menstr...
- throwawalien 3mo agowild that it took abortion for people to notice. the same cameras have been feeding ICE lookups across 5,000+ towns, quietly, for the last couple years
- t-writescode 3mo agoEducation is often best achieved through spaced repetition and cross-discipline integration, especially with the intent of connecting something with someone’s personal life to sink it deeper. A single news article ever, or 1000 news articles that don’t impact “you specifically” are less effective than measured repetition across multiple fronts.
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- aboardRat4 3mo agoWhy the minuses? Where am I wrong?
- Cider9986 3mo agoComplaining about downvotes gets you downvoted, for one.
- aboardRat4 3mo agoWell, it's a very lazy way of disagreeing.
- Waterluvian 3mo agoIt is possible to put forth an idea that is both highly disagreeable and unworthy of a response.
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- AussieWog93 3mo agoGenuinely, if you want an actual answer: your choice of language basically made us seem like you weren't interested in a good faith, productive discussion with the possibility of minds being challenged/changed, so people just disabled and moved on.
- belviewreview 3mo agoOne reason the government surveillance is important is I've read there is a growing movement among the right-to-lifers to hold women who abort criminally liable.
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- none2585 3mo agolol got em boss Then we can persecute the sinners that have premarital sex, eat pork, curse, work on Sundays, operate machinery on Saturdays or any sort of other backwards hick shit these idiots believe. Why'd we not just let the Confederacy go?
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- none2585 3mo agoYou cum into a paper towel again and throw it away - is that murder?
- bit-anarchist 3mo agoGiven what OP said, probably not: > There is no clear discrete point, other than insemination where it is not murder vs murder. Will you actually address this point?
- none2585 3mo agoI agree at some point it's a "person" but it's a long way off from insemination. Generally brain waves start showing up around mid-to-late second trimester so I think one could reasonably argue somewhere in there.
- mindcandy 3mo agoA human is born, lives a life, ingests the wrong chemical and becomes brain-dead. Now you have a human that is alive, but the person who was that human is permanently gone. To avoid murder, are we obliged to keep the body alive as long as possible by all available means? I don’t expect you would think so. I expect you’d agree terminating the life of the human body is the preferable and not a great ethical quandary. I would agree that at conception we have a human life. But, not that we have a human person. There are no thoughts, emotions, memories, hopes, dreams. There is a very strong potential for a person. But, at conception what makes a person is not there yet. At some point in time between the human existing a single living cell and the human voting in elections and joining the military, a person develops. But, it’s not a definite transition point in time. It’s a gradient. Unfortunately, for practical reasons, the law must pick a definite point in time. The consensus seems to be “around the time that the fetus can be kept alive and continue developing independent from the mother using current technology.” A practical choice, for sure. One might argue that the official transition point should be a bit earlier. But, that’s not the core of the disagreement. The core seems to be that some living people do not appear to take into consideration the difference between being alive vs. being a person.
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- stackghost 3mo agoIf rights can be capriciously and arbitrarily curtailed by armed agents of the state while effete judges yeet sternly-worded letters into the void, then those "rights" are worth about as much as the USA's signature on an international treaty. Which is to say, nothing.
- Joker_vD 3mo agoI don't know if you've ever read any Bill/Declaration of Rights, but they all have "this right shall not be violated unless the law allows it" provisions. Many of them even have "oh, and requiring state licensing to exercise such right is not violating it" provisions (see e.g. "This Article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises" in Article 10 of ECHR).
- IAmBroom 2mo agoNonsense. No such provision appears anywhere in the US Bill of Rights.
- Joker_vD 2mo agoThe 4th, 5th, 7th do have such provisions. And despite the 1th amendment prohibiting the Congress from "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press", both war-time censorship and prohibition of pacifist/anti-war propaganda has been found to be constitutional during the WWI.
- impish9208 3mo ago> …while effete judges yeet sternly-worded letters into the void… You, sir, have a way with words.
- stackghost 3mo agoIn going to choose to take this as a compliment :)
- belZaah 3mo agoWe had a lady down here in Estonia working for police. She used their extensive databases for non-work related reasons and got, very publicly, fired. She decided to appeal and lost. Through all levels of court up to the EU one. So for years, there would be a newspaper headline “remember that person who invaded your privacy? Still guilty”. Could not wish for a more impactful public execution.
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- hnburnsy 3mo ago>We want Texans to know their rights Unless they are on X.