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Tourism has to be managed. Most istitutions can't, or can in a relatively limited manner. Rich people provide both the money and the reputation to allow them to

Tourism has to be managed. Most istitutions can't, or can in a relatively limited manner. Rich people provide both the money and the reputation to allow them to have profitable private tours without risking too much. There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money. There is no real reason why a small church painted by Giotto can't be opened to the public, but managing all the people and making sure they don't damage stuff is a nightmare, unless the people entering have a verifiable reputation.

paganel 3mo ago
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- armchairhacker 3mo ago
  I’d work a museum at 2 A.M. for enough pay and time off.
  - paganel 3mo ago
    What about your family? Are they ok with that? And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about.
    - armchairhacker 3mo ago
      > What about your family? Are they ok with that? I'm single without kids so yes > And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about Context from the parent comment > There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money.
- snowpid 3mo ago
  to add to the neighbour comment: Night shifts are very popular in German car factories as they give good money.
  - carschno 3mo ago
    Stating the obvious, but you can of course see it as: there are more than enough workers that need the extra money so urgently that they are happy to screw up their health and social life. Whether they really "need" the money is another discussion.
    - snowpid 3mo ago
      working in a car factory is highly well paid, definitely way above average (so well paid, costs are too high for German factories). VW Poznan in Poland pays worser but still good amount.
- azan_ 3mo ago
  What's your problem? It's not like employees are doing it for free.
  - tormeh 3mo ago
    I don't necessarily share this view, but I've heard it enough times to steelman it: It's about dignity. I don't want to feel like someone owns me or can tell me what to do just because they lose some pocket change in my direction. You know the notion of the "deserving poor" that deserves our aid and pity? There's a corresponding idea of a deserving customer. I'd do my best impression of a dog for you if you ask nicely, but if you offer me $100 for it then I'll be insulted. If you offer me $10000 I'll do it but I'll resent you for it.
    - srean 3mo ago
      It depends entirely on the circumstances. If someone is doing it because of the arm twisting done by the economy and personal financial circumstances then of course it will not land well. I will feel exploited. On the other hand if I am coming from a place of joy to be an usher at an odd midnight hour to a more sic recital, where I am paid peanuts or nothing at all, but I get to see the show and participate in the collective enjoyment of wonder it would land very very differently. People get paid to sell their organs to tread water, I doubt they feel happy about it.
    - arter45 3mo ago
      I get the point, but I assume the people keeping the museum open at 2 AM for some rich dude are the same people who do exactly that kind of job in normal hours. In other words, they are asked to do overtime. So, as long as they are getting adequately paid for that overtime and they are not forced to do so (but I assume you can always find at least two people out of 20 who could do that), I don't think it's a big deal.
      - leereeves 3mo ago
        > and they are not forced to do so That would be my concern. I bet in at least some cases they're told something like be here at 2 AM or don't be here tomorrow.
- kergonath 3mo ago
  They are. But it’s a rhetorical question anyway. You will always find people willing to work at any time if you offer them enough money or if they are desperate enough.
- Almondsetat 3mo ago
  So night guards shouldn't exist?
al_borland 3mo ago
I went to a wedding/reception at a museum after hours. It was fantastic. Not only was it a cool and unique setting, but it allowed those who aren’t into dancing all night something to do as they split off into little groups and wandered around, exploring exhibits. It made for a great ice breaker.

paganel 3mo ago

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armchairhacker 3mo ago
I’d work a museum at 2 A.M. for enough pay and time off.
- paganel 3mo ago
  What about your family? Are they ok with that? And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about.
  - armchairhacker 3mo ago
    > What about your family? Are they ok with that? I'm single without kids so yes > And we both know that the involved museum employees do "not het enough pay", this is 2026 we're talking about Context from the parent comment > There is no real reason why a museum can't be open at 2 A.M., it's just that it's economically impossible, unless someone pays enough money.
snowpid 3mo ago
to add to the neighbour comment: Night shifts are very popular in German car factories as they give good money.
- carschno 3mo ago
  Stating the obvious, but you can of course see it as: there are more than enough workers that need the extra money so urgently that they are happy to screw up their health and social life. Whether they really "need" the money is another discussion.
  - snowpid 3mo ago
    working in a car factory is highly well paid, definitely way above average (so well paid, costs are too high for German factories). VW Poznan in Poland pays worser but still good amount.
azan_ 3mo ago
What's your problem? It's not like employees are doing it for free.
- tormeh 3mo ago
  I don't necessarily share this view, but I've heard it enough times to steelman it: It's about dignity. I don't want to feel like someone owns me or can tell me what to do just because they lose some pocket change in my direction. You know the notion of the "deserving poor" that deserves our aid and pity? There's a corresponding idea of a deserving customer. I'd do my best impression of a dog for you if you ask nicely, but if you offer me $100 for it then I'll be insulted. If you offer me $10000 I'll do it but I'll resent you for it.
  - srean 3mo ago
    It depends entirely on the circumstances. If someone is doing it because of the arm twisting done by the economy and personal financial circumstances then of course it will not land well. I will feel exploited. On the other hand if I am coming from a place of joy to be an usher at an odd midnight hour to a more sic recital, where I am paid peanuts or nothing at all, but I get to see the show and participate in the collective enjoyment of wonder it would land very very differently. People get paid to sell their organs to tread water, I doubt they feel happy about it.
  - arter45 3mo ago
    I get the point, but I assume the people keeping the museum open at 2 AM for some rich dude are the same people who do exactly that kind of job in normal hours. In other words, they are asked to do overtime. So, as long as they are getting adequately paid for that overtime and they are not forced to do so (but I assume you can always find at least two people out of 20 who could do that), I don't think it's a big deal.
    - leereeves 3mo ago
      > and they are not forced to do so That would be my concern. I bet in at least some cases they're told something like be here at 2 AM or don't be here tomorrow.
kergonath 3mo ago
They are. But it’s a rhetorical question anyway. You will always find people willing to work at any time if you offer them enough money or if they are desperate enough.
Almondsetat 3mo ago
So night guards shouldn't exist?

al_borland 3mo ago

I went to a wedding/reception at a museum after hours. It was fantastic. Not only was it a cool and unique setting, but it allowed those who aren’t into dancing all night something to do as they split off into little groups and wandered around, exploring exhibits. It made for a great ice breaker.