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>People infringe on Anthropics IP No. Authors do not infringe on IP when they read another's book, nor should the lumber company be able to dictate how I use
by athrowaway3z 3mo ago
>People infringe on Anthropics IP
No.
Authors do not infringe on IP when they read another's book, nor should the lumber company be able to dictate how I use planks and if I can resell them if i'm done with them.
You're framing it as if the added value of the author or lumber company, awards them consideration when somebody uses the products to create more value.
IP law was always a big mess, and these questions cross far into ideology instead of law; but I do not understand people who think we need an ideology where more IP-law is good for society.
- throe74844949 3mo agoThere are some quite interesting legal implications here. If Anthropic has IP over output produced by agents, do they somehow have legal rights to code and documents produced by such agents? This would demolish agent usage by corporations.
- throw1234567891 3mo agoYou say “if”. How did Anthropic obtain this IP, if the model serves ripped internet and all human knowledge?
- p_l 3mo agoGeneral consensus is that neither the model nor its outputs can be protected IP
- jstummbillig 3mo agoIt's more simple: They infringe on the IP by way of violating the ToS. If you violate ToS and the company suffers financial harm, they usually can (usually) sue you in civil court for damages.
- ForHackernews 3mo agoYou can't violate ToS you never agreed to. If I use pirate Claude through a third-party reseller, I have entered no agreement with Anthropic.
- nonethewiser 3mo agoApi key? I guess you could steal them but thats a whole other issue.
- Maxatar 3mo agoViolating terms of service and violating IP rights are two independent violations. Neither implies the other.
- anon373839 3mo agoThat’s not what “IP” means. You’re describing breach of contract.
- nextaccountic 3mo agoTerms of service are separate from intellectual property
- nonethewiser 3mo ago>Authors do not infringe on IP when they read another's book Are the distillers reading books or are they building models? If anthropic is providing no value they can just build from scratch. But obviously distilling is easier. Hes saying thats the value they add.