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You can't pay more to get a better drone than DJI's. You can pay more (although it's difficult) to get a worse drone. Much worse.

by bambax 3mo ago

ErroneousBosh 3mo ago
Next year you'll have a fair old choice of drones from Ukrainian manufacturers though, when they're no longer needed to defeat Putin.
- shmeeed 3mo ago
  I like that thought
- Scroll_Swe 3mo ago
  And remember dear readers, China and Iran openly helps Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. It is like the cold war never ended. China's covert military training of Russian forces last year was personally approved by President Vladimir Putin's defence minister and directly involved at least four Russian and Chinese generals, according to two European officials and documents seen by Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-approved-secret-china-military-training-top-level-sources-say-2026-07-01/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-ap... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Support_for_Russia_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Support_for_Russia_in_the_Russ... One of EUs biggest trading partners wants Ukraine to lose to Russia... https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/china-tells-eu-it-cannot-afford-russian-loss-ukraine-war-sources-say https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/ch... Iran helps with Shaeed Drones as known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136#Geran-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136#Geran-2 With Chinese parts btw. North Korea is in too with 10k troops at least and massive ammo. Traded for food and wheat from Ukraine.
  - ErroneousBosh 3mo ago
    > Iran helps with Shaeed Drones as known This ought to be a useful message for the US, too, whose Russian-owned government didn't want to help provide Ukraine with much in the way of weapons. The US got an absolute pasting in Hormuz from Iranian drones, and maybe if they'd had some Ukrainian kit they'd have come off a little better.
    - Scroll_Swe 3mo ago
      This is a funny view to me. USA has complete air superiority over Iran. But when they bomb people like you complain.
toss1 3mo ago
Right, because in an actual free market where DHI was not heavily subsidized, DJI drones would cost MUCH more, and the other drones would be competitive. Same for BYD vs Tesla and every other car. It is easy to win in the "free market" when you give away your product. Same for Uber and Lyft for many years — subsidized by VCs until they gained massive scale, effectively killed all the other competition, and now the prices have gone up when they have a lock on the market, a large moat, and the VCs want a return. In my area, what was a $30 ride to the airport a few years ago, far cheaper than any airport service, is now $89. The entire concept of a "free market" is idealized to the point of fiction.

You can't pay more to get a better drone than DJI's. You can pay more (although it's difficult) to get a worse drone. Much worse.

by bambax 3mo ago

You can't pay more to get a better drone than DJI's. You can pay more (although it's difficult) to get a worse drone. Much worse.

ErroneousBosh 3mo ago

Next year you'll have a fair old choice of drones from Ukrainian manufacturers though, when they're no longer needed to defeat Putin.

shmeeed 3mo ago
I like that thought
Scroll_Swe 3mo ago
And remember dear readers, China and Iran openly helps Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. It is like the cold war never ended. China's covert military training of Russian forces last year was personally approved by President Vladimir Putin's defence minister and directly involved at least four Russian and Chinese generals, according to two European officials and documents seen by Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-approved-secret-china-military-training-top-level-sources-say-2026-07-01/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-ap... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Support_for_Russia_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Support_for_Russia_in_the_Russ... One of EUs biggest trading partners wants Ukraine to lose to Russia... https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/china-tells-eu-it-cannot-afford-russian-loss-ukraine-war-sources-say https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/ch... Iran helps with Shaeed Drones as known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136#Geran-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136#Geran-2 With Chinese parts btw. North Korea is in too with 10k troops at least and massive ammo. Traded for food and wheat from Ukraine.
- ErroneousBosh 3mo ago
  > Iran helps with Shaeed Drones as known This ought to be a useful message for the US, too, whose Russian-owned government didn't want to help provide Ukraine with much in the way of weapons. The US got an absolute pasting in Hormuz from Iranian drones, and maybe if they'd had some Ukrainian kit they'd have come off a little better.
  - Scroll_Swe 3mo ago
    This is a funny view to me. USA has complete air superiority over Iran. But when they bomb people like you complain.

toss1 3mo ago

Right, because in an actual free market where DHI was not heavily subsidized, DJI drones would cost MUCH more, and the other drones would be competitive. Same for BYD vs Tesla and every other car. It is easy to win in the "free market" when you give away your product. Same for Uber and Lyft for many years — subsidized by VCs until they gained massive scale, effectively killed all the other competition, and now the prices have gone up when they have a lock on the market, a large moat, and the VCs want a return. In my area, what was a $30 ride to the airport a few years ago, far cheaper than any airport service, is now $89. The entire concept of a "free market" is idealized to the point of fiction.