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> The “overlap” is that all machine learning is AI ... "All machine learning" is not AI, as k-means clustering and linear regression, amongst others, are very

> The “overlap” is that all machine learning is AI ... "All machine learning" is not AI, as k-means clustering and linear regression, amongst others, are very much ML without qualifying as AI algorithms.

solumunus 3mo ago
The machine is learning something so that it can produce outputs based on its learned knowledge. At a high level that seems to be very clearly AI. What am I missing here? You’re probably right, I’m asking genuinely.
- cygx 3mo ago
  It's a matter of definitions, but I can at least understand someone wanting to make a distinction between reactive and non-reactive 'AI' (such as data filters). There's overlap and edge cases, though: Maybe you have a program that summarizes texts. One could argue that's no different from a passive filter. But can you then ask questions about the text? That's unquestionably AI.
ruszki 3mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence As it is taught literally every single AI/machine learning course on the world, machine learning is very much part of AI completely since inception. I don’t completely understand why it is this important for you to argue against this completely defined fact.
- RuslanL 3mo ago
  It is correct to argue about misleading terminology. "AI" contains the word "intelligence", and for instance logistic regression algorithm is not intelligent, while it is clearly ML, since machine learns something. As Machine learning is broader category, it should include Artificial Intelligence, not vice versa. Also, 'every single course' is perhaps an overstatement - a course that I co-authored tries to get it right from the first principles.
  - ruszki 3mo ago
    It wasn't misleading for 70 years... How did it become misleading?
  - budsniffer952 3mo ago
    You're just making up your own definitions. Have at it, but as you've been told: this stuff is not new.
- wqaatwt 3mo ago
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disgruntledphd2 3mo ago
Technically linear regression is statistics rather than ML, but I feel like the GNU/Linux people whenever I point that out.
- fingerlocks 3mo ago
  Not even technically. I had to do linear regressions by hand, pencil and paper, in college stats course 20 years ago. No machine necessary

solumunus 3mo ago

The machine is learning something so that it can produce outputs based on its learned knowledge. At a high level that seems to be very clearly AI. What am I missing here? You’re probably right, I’m asking genuinely.

cygx 3mo ago
It's a matter of definitions, but I can at least understand someone wanting to make a distinction between reactive and non-reactive 'AI' (such as data filters). There's overlap and edge cases, though: Maybe you have a program that summarizes texts. One could argue that's no different from a passive filter. But can you then ask questions about the text? That's unquestionably AI.

ruszki 3mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence As it is taught literally every single AI/machine learning course on the world, machine learning is very much part of AI completely since inception. I don’t completely understand why it is this important for you to argue against this completely defined fact.

RuslanL 3mo ago
It is correct to argue about misleading terminology. "AI" contains the word "intelligence", and for instance logistic regression algorithm is not intelligent, while it is clearly ML, since machine learns something. As Machine learning is broader category, it should include Artificial Intelligence, not vice versa. Also, 'every single course' is perhaps an overstatement - a course that I co-authored tries to get it right from the first principles.
- ruszki 3mo ago
  It wasn't misleading for 70 years... How did it become misleading?
- budsniffer952 3mo ago
  You're just making up your own definitions. Have at it, but as you've been told: this stuff is not new.
wqaatwt 3mo ago
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disgruntledphd2 3mo ago

Technically linear regression is statistics rather than ML, but I feel like the GNU/Linux people whenever I point that out.

fingerlocks 3mo ago
Not even technically. I had to do linear regressions by hand, pencil and paper, in college stats course 20 years ago. No machine necessary