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Not a .com domain, so out of reach. Anything within US reach, individuals or entities, is fair game from a US judicial system perspective. Everyone learns this

Not a .com domain, so out of reach. Anything within US reach, individuals or entities, is fair game from a US judicial system perspective. Everyone learns this the hard way, it seems.

profmonocle 4mo ago
A federal court, sure. But this was a state court ruling on a state law.
- toomuchtodo 4mo ago
  My other comment in this thread has citations demonstrating SCOTUS support and approval for Texas to enforce these laws, as well as links to statue trackers showing where states and countries have implemented these age validation requirements for social media and adult content sites. It was a choice by Motherless and their holding company, Kick Online, to egregiously ignore Texas law; the law has been found sound by the US Supreme Court, and enforceable by Texas. These are the facts of the situation. Everything else to discuss on this is feelings and opinion, unless there are relevant facts not yet shared or discovered. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48953591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48953591
  - Dylan16807 4mo ago
    Importantly "egregious" is also opinion. The other point of view is that they "very reasonably" ignored Texas law because they're not in Texas. The Supreme Court found that the law was valid, but that ruling doesn't mean it necessarily applies in a situation like this.
    - 15155 4mo ago
      Article IV, Section I Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.
      - Dylan16807 4mo ago
        That doesn't give them nexus.
        15155 4mo ago
        Verisign does business in Texas, right? Are they just allowed to do that with no restrictions? Texas can't say "no, you may not sell services to Texans?"
        Dylan16807 4mo ago
        I'm talking about nexus over Kick. Verisign might be bound by Texas law, but they're not the one accused of breaking any laws here. This isn't a law for registrars, it's a law for websites.
MyMemoryfails 4mo ago
I think he means since IANA/ICANN assings country LTD, so technically it's also under USA jurisdiction. Waiting for the day when texas court demands deleting .ee LTD (since estonia is currently only country which has fought agaisnt age verification laws)
8note 4mo ago
you'll find people in the thread saying that if its accessible in texas, its in Texas under that setup, yes, twxas is illegally breaking US sanctions against north korea

Not a .com domain, so out of reach. Anything within US reach, individuals or entities, is fair game from a US judicial system perspective. Everyone learns this the hard way, it seems.

profmonocle 4mo ago

A federal court, sure. But this was a state court ruling on a state law.

toomuchtodo 4mo ago
My other comment in this thread has citations demonstrating SCOTUS support and approval for Texas to enforce these laws, as well as links to statue trackers showing where states and countries have implemented these age validation requirements for social media and adult content sites. It was a choice by Motherless and their holding company, Kick Online, to egregiously ignore Texas law; the law has been found sound by the US Supreme Court, and enforceable by Texas. These are the facts of the situation. Everything else to discuss on this is feelings and opinion, unless there are relevant facts not yet shared or discovered. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48953591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48953591
- Dylan16807 4mo ago
  Importantly "egregious" is also opinion. The other point of view is that they "very reasonably" ignored Texas law because they're not in Texas. The Supreme Court found that the law was valid, but that ruling doesn't mean it necessarily applies in a situation like this.
  - 15155 4mo ago
    Article IV, Section I Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.
    - Dylan16807 4mo ago
      That doesn't give them nexus.
      - 15155 4mo ago
        Verisign does business in Texas, right? Are they just allowed to do that with no restrictions? Texas can't say "no, you may not sell services to Texans?"
        Dylan16807 4mo ago
        I'm talking about nexus over Kick. Verisign might be bound by Texas law, but they're not the one accused of breaking any laws here. This isn't a law for registrars, it's a law for websites.

MyMemoryfails 4mo ago

I think he means since IANA/ICANN assings country LTD, so technically it's also under USA jurisdiction. Waiting for the day when texas court demands deleting .ee LTD (since estonia is currently only country which has fought agaisnt age verification laws)

8note 4mo ago

you'll find people in the thread saying that if its accessible in texas, its in Texas under that setup, yes, twxas is illegally breaking US sanctions against north korea