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First of all: I wrote that I welcome the open sourcing of this code. It was literally the first sentence. I wrote it specifically for reactions like that. They

by lysace 3mo ago

First of all: I wrote that I welcome the open sourcing of this code. It was literally the first sentence. I wrote it specifically for reactions like that. They embraced the Internet; in this case IRC. This followed Bill Gates' well-publicised memo "The Internet Tidal Wave" a year earlier (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/18_06_08_internet%20tidal%20wave.pdf http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/18_06_08_internet...). It didn't happen because "someone at MS made a fun IRC client". They extended the open IRC protocol with proprietary extensions hidden inside CTCP (Client-to-Client Protocol) messages to support "the fun stuff": https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Amicrosoft%2Fcomic-chat%20ctcp&type=code https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Amicrosoft%2Fcomic-chat%20... (you need to be logged in to Microsoft's Github for code search to work nowadays.) The outcome of this effort: Comic Chat was interoperable with regular IRC clients, but when two Comic Chat users connected, they could see richer interactions.

krige 3mo ago
So where's the extinguish? You can't stop proving your point halfway through unless you're implying you did not actually have a point.
- lysace 3mo ago
  It probably eventually wasn't deemed important enough for that phase. In 1999 when Comic Chat ended they pivoted to their completely proprietary MSN Messenger service instead, with a stronger focus on individual-to-individual. This came after ICQ (1996) and AIM (1997).
  - krige 3mo ago
    Apples and oranges. MSN was aimed at, well AIM, to the point where AIM used protocol flaws to block MSN clients. And it doesn't track that they'd just abandon IRC considering it was a period of absolutely massive growth for the protocol. It's more likely there was no intent to EEE IRC.
MBCook 3mo ago
You put one sentence in saying it was good, then the rest of the (admittedly short) ent complaining about behavior from 30 years ago. Why does it matter to today? It just makes your first sentence feel like a backhanded compliment.

by lysace 3mo ago

krige 3mo ago

So where's the extinguish? You can't stop proving your point halfway through unless you're implying you did not actually have a point.

lysace 3mo ago
It probably eventually wasn't deemed important enough for that phase. In 1999 when Comic Chat ended they pivoted to their completely proprietary MSN Messenger service instead, with a stronger focus on individual-to-individual. This came after ICQ (1996) and AIM (1997).
- krige 3mo ago
  Apples and oranges. MSN was aimed at, well AIM, to the point where AIM used protocol flaws to block MSN clients. And it doesn't track that they'd just abandon IRC considering it was a period of absolutely massive growth for the protocol. It's more likely there was no intent to EEE IRC.

MBCook 3mo ago

You put one sentence in saying it was good, then the rest of the (admittedly short) ent complaining about behavior from 30 years ago. Why does it matter to today? It just makes your first sentence feel like a backhanded compliment.