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It's similar to the people who block roadways to protest climate change. Usually it makes the commuters frustrated and doesn't change anything. Personally I th
by abirch 3mo ago
It's similar to the people who block roadways to protest climate change. Usually it makes the commuters frustrated and doesn't change anything.
Personally I think data centers should pay a 100% fossil fuel tax. Markets respond to incentives.
- plufz 3mo agoI think XR would prefer your solution as well. Still I can understand young people’s frustration when we after years and years of knowing about climate change do so little and so few laws of this type are enacted. But I agree that their strategy is lacking. It would probably be easier to get people in general to support it if it didn’t affect them directly, sadly.
- abirch 3mo agoI understand why people are frustrated with the current system in general. You wouldn't design it this way. We need more young politicians shaping the laws and more entrepreneurs improving society.
- inigyou 3mo agoThat can't happen, because political positions are basically hereditary. Do you know what happened to every other hereditary political system?
- AnimalMuppet 3mo agoI call baloney. What percentage of the US Congress and governors, say, are people whose parents were in Congress and/or governors? I have no hard data, but my gut feel is less than 25%. That's basically not hereditary. Anyone with hard data, step right up...
- inigyou 3mo agonot literally parent-child hereditary but I mean the political class decides who succeeds itself
- scarecrowbob 3mo agoI get that it's a single case, but Darlene Graham did just take Lindsey Graham's spot, like, yesterday.
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- marcosdumay 3mo ago> and doesn't change anything It does change people that don't know about your cause against it, quite reliably as long as activism results go. For climate change, everybody probably heard about it, so yeah.
- inigyou 3mo ago"there's no such thing as bad publicity" once again.
- IAmBroom 3mo agoIf ever true, it's for brand recognition. PETA's brand recognition has probably made more people anti-vegan than all other vegans put together.
- marcosdumay 3mo agoThere is pretty much bad publicity. But for causes it seems to only impact the ones you don't know about.
- appreciatorBus 3mo agoI think fossil fuel taxes are a great idea, but if one consumer, data centers, should pay it, shouldn't all consumers (private car owners) pay it too? That's the only way we'll be able to make good decisions about what types of fossil fuels are useful (i.e. more good than harm) and which are pointless luxuries.
- bix6 3mo agoNo. Industrial vs consumer use is night and day. Industrial has much higher draw of resources and should pay more as a result especially when total capacity needs to increase specifically for them.
- appreciatorBus 3mo agoThe reason an industrial use uses x times more than a consumer is because the industry is selling products and services to x consumers. You can't compare them 1:1.
- bix6 3mo agoWell the industrial should charge more to cover its costs instead of offloading the cost of its goods to consumers? Why does Walmart get to utilize food stamps or hyperscalers get to drain all the energy? Thats a massive public subsidy for a private corporation.
- bix6 3mo agoData centers should just pay anything really. They get massive tax breaks, eat up huge swathes of industrial zoned land, and piss off anyone nearby. And for what? 3 permanent jobs and a penny worth of tax revenue.
- ourmandave 3mo agoI was going to say 4 permanent jobs, because they have to hire a security guard. But they'll just use AI powered flock cameras instead, so never mind.