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> You're allowed to exit the AI business. Isn’t it more fun to fight the incumbents, the behemoths, the goliaths?
by andsoitis 4mo ago
> You're allowed to exit the AI business.
Isn’t it more fun to fight the incumbents, the behemoths, the goliaths?
- beams_of_light 4mo agoxAI is no David.
- andsoitis 4mo agoRelative to OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google in the AI space? Absolutely.
- verandaguy 4mo agoNah. They're all rotten to the core, just in different ways. The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade. That said, the economics of the entire AI industry are kinda made up at this point, so who really knows; it's quite possible that the players with the best odds of surviving the crash are those that can draw funding from their parent company's other businesses.
- anonym29 4mo ago>The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade. I don't know, renting out a fleet of GPUs at annualized rate of ~100% of the capex deployed to obtain said GPUs seems reasonably better than lighting hundreds of billions of dollars on fire in order to earn tens of billions of dollars.
- halfmatthalfcat 4mo agoThe GPUs that depreciate like gangbusters. Yeah, solid long term plan.
- tengbretson 4mo ago3090s are still selling at damn near their release MSRP.
- jdiff 4mo agoThey're not filling datacenters with 3090s. With the amount of headache and the amount of infrastructure needed to support those beasts, do they even have a resale price at all? Or just scrap value?
- timmmmmmay 4mo agoyou know you can just log onto eBay and see what the price of a used H100 is. nobody is stopping you
- jdiff 4mo agoWasn't thinking of H100s either. I spoke of infrastructure support, and I was being literal. A herd of GB200s needs a building built to stringent specifications to house them.
- trollbridge 4mo agoYes. Their resale price is in the same range as the cost of a new car. I'd buy one if I could, but they're too expensive for me.
- LastTrain 4mo agoDavid was a good vs evil with an order of magnitude fewer resources on the good side. XAi is evil vs evil with comparable resources on each side. Now this is where I know you’re MAGA because as I’ve said a million times you guys don’t do fair comparisons.
- andsoitis 4mo agoxAI, by all accounts, is not a real playing the frontier AI model market. By a long shot by many accounts.
- dzhiurgis 4mo agoDid we forget how XAI meant to be uncensored model (because censorship is a lie and lying models cannot be good)
- LastTrain 4mo agoBut it is not uncensored it is just differently censored
- RIMR 4mo agoA $2,500,000,000,000.00 startup. An underdog really.
- yoyohello13 4mo agoElon is the richest (and by extension most powerful) person in the world. How is he the scrappy underdog in any context?
- akimbostrawman 4mo ago>Elon is the richest (and by extension most powerful) person in the world *publicity known, and overwhelming majority of his wealth is not liquid but tied to companies. Arguably the most powerful publicly known person is the US president.