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Starlink should probably reverse course on this however, it's one thing to pay 10k for up to 20 guests on a small private jet vs a company like Delta with a fle
by throwitaway222 3mo ago
Starlink should probably reverse course on this however, it's one thing to pay 10k for up to 20 guests on a small private jet vs a company like Delta with a fleet of 747s. Charge Delta 20k, charge this guy 10k.
- theturtletalks 3mo agoWhy would they not charge as much as possible? Who else is launching satellites? He’s got one of the biggest moats I’ve ever seen.
- fallingbananna 3mo agoI don't know who else is launching satellites, but many airlines do offer wifi, often via partnerships with telco companies. It's just expensive and slow. So the only moat I see (as a layman) is the speed and capacity. The one flight that I was on that had Starlink, had better internet during the flight, than most airports have on the ground.
- matwood 3mo ago> The one flight that I was on that had Starlink, had better internet during the flight, than most airports have on the ground. When it comes to internet, this IS the moat.
- SoftTalker 3mo agoPassengers who want en route internet will demand it. The cost won't matter because that will be expensed. They will want the performance.
- DougN7 3mo agoASTS - though I think their satellites are supposed to connect to phone hardware
- 7e 3mo agoAmazon Leo has about 350 in orbit now, on their way to 7,500.
- verzali 3mo agoThere are quite a few providers of inflight wifi via satellite (or even cellular towers). Speeds are not usually as high as Starlink but it is ridiculous to say they have zero competition. You also have Amazon building a constellation, OneWeb with one already in place (though not available for retail customers), and a Chinese one under construction.
- anvuong 3mo agoThat 20 guests on a PJ are probably worth more than a fully booked 747. Price has always been set based how much customers are willing pay, not based on the value it creates.
- matwood 3mo ago> Starlink should probably reverse course on this Why? Rich people flying private want to be connected and Starlink is the most reliable game in town. "Do you have Starlink?" is probably already being asked by those booking private.
- ryandrake 3mo agoAlso, not everyone in "aviation" is either an airliner or a 20 seat private jet. Joe Piston flying his two seater Cessna that cost him about as much as a new Toyota is not ever going to be paying Starlink's aviation price. They really need more price tiers and scale them by a better price differentiator: max gross weight or number of seats.
- engineer_22 3mo agoJoe Piston probably has enough on his plate flying his 2-seater without global 1Gbps entertainment-on-demand or executing trades on his brokerage account while his team of financiers crunch the numbers in row 2. Starlink Aviation has 2 General Aviation tiers at $200/mo and $1,000/mo, 3 business tiers, $4000/mo, $12,500/mo, $20,000/mo, and negotiable “Fleet” pricing for commercial and government. https://starlink.com/business/aviation?srsltid=AfmBOoqiIuBL18Hnf7Mnfe9OElOeff99dnm7Y0I3u4-hJFOVGWD9yWu9 https://starlink.com/business/aviation?srsltid=AfmBOoqiIuBL1...
- ryandrake 3mo agoOf course a pilot is not going to trading stocks while flying, but there are plenty of safety reasons to have in-cockpit connectivity, including weather, notams, long-range comms with their destination, and so on. Not to mention convenient Internet for a passenger on a long flight, who themselves might want to trade their stocks. These use cases are approximately competing with SiriusXM weather, which has price tiers from $29.99/mo to $99.99/mo.
- throwitaway222 3mo agoSome of these Cesnas have 4 seats. Wife in copilot seat on an ipad, and the kids in the back playing COD on their Steam Decks.
- verzali 3mo agoWhats the point of taking passengers if they aren't going to be paying attention. Leave them on the ground and take someone who actually enjoys the experience.