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This made me realize how many devices I buy once, set up once, and then never think about again. Smart TVs are probably one of the biggest examples of that. It

This made me realize how many devices I buy once, set up once, and then never think about again. Smart TVs are probably one of the biggest examples of that. It would be interesting if manufacturers had to make software support periods much more obvious before people bought them.

Incipient 3mo ago
I wish I never thought of it. Just had a recent Samsung TV update, and now it has to sign in EVERY TIME it turns on. I'm considering how to frame it as a warranty job.
- gnopgnip 3mo ago
  Factory reset it then never connect to the internet. Use another device you can control for streaming
  - account42 3mo ago
    > Use another device you can control for streaming Streaming and "device you can control" are mutually exclusive.
    - derwiki 3mo ago
      Jellyfin?
    - dpoloncsak 3mo ago
      Something as simple as Raspberry Pi is capable of streaming from the main services while being a device you are root on. I don't think anyone's looking to control the Stream box
      - M95D 3mo ago
        Hanging-by-a-thread capable. Netflix plugin for Kody is unmaintained since last year and all the other major services are supported by a single guy from Australia (probably). I'm not aware of other ways to stream on Raspberry.
  - duskdozer 3mo ago
    I'd be surprised if they didn't have anti-downgrade fuses or something and force you to connect and update. Or just overwrite the reset image.
Rygian 3mo ago
In Europe, the Cyber Resilience Act mandates the manufacturer to: * Report any security breaches within 72 hours to a public body (country's CSIRT + ENISA). * for "all products with digital elements [...] including those already placed on the market before 11 December 2027" Products must be sold with a "secure by default" config, with automated security patching enabled by default (opt-out), with reporting on possible unauthorised access, with data collection minimization (tie-in to GDPR), with an SBOM, with dedicated security testing, with public disclosure of vulnerabilities, … https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cra-summary https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cra-summar...

Incipient 3mo ago

I wish I never thought of it. Just had a recent Samsung TV update, and now it has to sign in EVERY TIME it turns on. I'm considering how to frame it as a warranty job.

gnopgnip 3mo ago
Factory reset it then never connect to the internet. Use another device you can control for streaming
- account42 3mo ago
  > Use another device you can control for streaming Streaming and "device you can control" are mutually exclusive.
  - derwiki 3mo ago
    Jellyfin?
  - dpoloncsak 3mo ago
    Something as simple as Raspberry Pi is capable of streaming from the main services while being a device you are root on. I don't think anyone's looking to control the Stream box
    - M95D 3mo ago
      Hanging-by-a-thread capable. Netflix plugin for Kody is unmaintained since last year and all the other major services are supported by a single guy from Australia (probably). I'm not aware of other ways to stream on Raspberry.
- duskdozer 3mo ago
  I'd be surprised if they didn't have anti-downgrade fuses or something and force you to connect and update. Or just overwrite the reset image.

Rygian 3mo ago

In Europe, the Cyber Resilience Act mandates the manufacturer to: * Report any security breaches within 72 hours to a public body (country's CSIRT + ENISA). * for "all products with digital elements [...] including those already placed on the market before 11 December 2027" Products must be sold with a "secure by default" config, with automated security patching enabled by default (opt-out), with reporting on possible unauthorised access, with data collection minimization (tie-in to GDPR), with an SBOM, with dedicated security testing, with public disclosure of vulnerabilities, … https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cra-summary https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cra-summar...