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That's a good question indeed. Also I wonder why they picked java as the implementation language.

by zihotki 3mo ago

rednb 3mo ago
Likely because they are a Java shop. All the IDEs they develop use Java, so they have quite an expertise in low level optimization for this language.
- jonathanlydall 3mo ago
  They also have C# expertise, but yes, Java is probably the language they have the most expertise in.
- rob74 3mo ago
  That's true, although, if you look at them, you wouldn't notice. The only mention of JVM you can see in the IDEs is in the About dialog, and the IDEs install and run their own OpenJDK, so no JVM has to be installed globally. Almost as if they were a bit self-conscious about using such an "unsexy" architecture...
  - mike_hearn 3mo ago
    Bundling a JDK with the app is the officially sanctioned way to ship Java apps since Java 9, so for over a decade now.
    - Hendrikto 3mo ago
      The JDK is too big for every app to do that, imo.
      - pjmlp 3mo ago
        Which is why there are linking and packaging tools for trimming fat that isn't needed, or even AOT compile the application.
    - well_ackshually 3mo ago
      You mean a JRE, because the whole JDK contains a bunch of things you're never going to need. Mind you, a default JRE redistribution makes your app at least 100+MB. Using jdeps to strip out unneeded things is a good idea if you want it to get down to 25 ish MBs.
      - jamesfinlayson 3mo ago
        JREs haven't been a thing in like a decade I thought.
        well_ackshually 3mo ago
        Yeah, saying JRE is a bit of a shortcut since you're supposed to jlink & jpackage & jdance &jpray to get a slimmed down JVM released with your app, but it's closer to what would be a JRE than a full JDK
fsuts 3mo ago
Date of commits shows this project is 3 years old. It’s JetBrains who were synonymous with Java so not a surprise, if was a recent project would have been Kotlin (which this company created)
- winrid 3mo ago
  Probably worth saying it's a fork of orientdb from like 2010.
ChrisRR 3mo ago
Because Youtrack itself is written in java

That's a good question indeed. Also I wonder why they picked java as the implementation language.

by zihotki 3mo ago

That's a good question indeed. Also I wonder why they picked java as the implementation language.

rednb 3mo ago

Likely because they are a Java shop. All the IDEs they develop use Java, so they have quite an expertise in low level optimization for this language.

jonathanlydall 3mo ago
They also have C# expertise, but yes, Java is probably the language they have the most expertise in.
rob74 3mo ago
That's true, although, if you look at them, you wouldn't notice. The only mention of JVM you can see in the IDEs is in the About dialog, and the IDEs install and run their own OpenJDK, so no JVM has to be installed globally. Almost as if they were a bit self-conscious about using such an "unsexy" architecture...
- mike_hearn 3mo ago
  Bundling a JDK with the app is the officially sanctioned way to ship Java apps since Java 9, so for over a decade now.
  - Hendrikto 3mo ago
    The JDK is too big for every app to do that, imo.
    - pjmlp 3mo ago
      Which is why there are linking and packaging tools for trimming fat that isn't needed, or even AOT compile the application.
  - well_ackshually 3mo ago
    You mean a JRE, because the whole JDK contains a bunch of things you're never going to need. Mind you, a default JRE redistribution makes your app at least 100+MB. Using jdeps to strip out unneeded things is a good idea if you want it to get down to 25 ish MBs.
    - jamesfinlayson 3mo ago
      JREs haven't been a thing in like a decade I thought.
      - well_ackshually 3mo ago
        Yeah, saying JRE is a bit of a shortcut since you're supposed to jlink & jpackage & jdance &jpray to get a slimmed down JVM released with your app, but it's closer to what would be a JRE than a full JDK

fsuts 3mo ago

Date of commits shows this project is 3 years old. It’s JetBrains who were synonymous with Java so not a surprise, if was a recent project would have been Kotlin (which this company created)

winrid 3mo ago
Probably worth saying it's a fork of orientdb from like 2010.

ChrisRR 3mo ago

Because Youtrack itself is written in java