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Funny this should come up today. I just got a notice from my credit card company that Evernote just charged my credit card after 2 'successful' cancellations o

by bkeyes 3mo ago

Funny this should come up today. I just got a notice from my credit card company that Evernote just charged my credit card after 2 'successful' cancellations of my subscription each of the last 2 years, and the complete deletion of my account several months ago. Hopefully these will become more widespread - I'm not in NY or CA.

summarybot 3mo ago
Sharks will keep eating easy prey until they hit an iron bar. I also hate this fact about the world by the way :) Just a [hardwon] observation.
- puchatek 3mo ago
  People who forget to cancel are easy prey. Cancelling then being charged anyway is something else. Something akin to being robbed IMHO.
  - wpm 3mo ago
    It is being robbed.
  - inigyou 3mo ago
    Easy prey for this are people who don't dispute the charge with their bank and people who don't press charges.
vvpan 3mo ago
A complimentary complaint is that payments are a "pull" operation with subscriptions. You can't decide who gets your money. How retro is that!
brookside 3mo ago
Bending Spoons acquired Evernote: "What is Bending Spoons? The little-known AOL and Vimeo owner that's now public" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48799966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48799966
- The_Blade 3mo ago
  yes, that is happening to me real-time, the article in the Economist reminded me (https://www.economist.com/business/2026/07/01/can-bending-spoons-thrive-as-a-listed-company https://www.economist.com/business/2026/07/01/can-bending-sp...), right down to Evernote being the one they are attempting to gouge me on at best and charge illegally at worst. so i had a closer look at bank and PayPal GLs i found similar issues with Paddle (attempted to quit), Proton (double charged), Splashtop (attempted to quit), and Bloomberg via Apple (attempted to quit) and the common thread is PayPal. never Stripe. my PayPal account is ancient (2002) and knowing what i know about payments (perhaps a little) i believe there is something akin to a hole regarding legacy pre-auth tokens in a PayPal architecture which is old enough to run for the US House. at least Bending Spoons would be willfully exploiting such a hole, because after i refunded / cancelled, 9 days later they were able to charge again. PayPal also seems to have an open marriage with PCI-DSS / SOC2
MBCook 3mo ago
There’s a reason they were used as a poster child of a bad actor when the FTC rule was made a few years ago, before the current administration shredded it.
JSR_FDED 3mo ago
I was so annoyed with how slimy Evernote had become and how the product regressed and they were clearly not spending money on it, I switched to Apple Notes and have been very happy.
inigyou 3mo ago
Chargeback time! Hopefully they get banned from the payment networks for too many fraudulent payments.

by bkeyes 3mo ago

summarybot 3mo ago

Sharks will keep eating easy prey until they hit an iron bar. I also hate this fact about the world by the way :) Just a [hardwon] observation.

puchatek 3mo ago
People who forget to cancel are easy prey. Cancelling then being charged anyway is something else. Something akin to being robbed IMHO.
- wpm 3mo ago
  It is being robbed.
- inigyou 3mo ago
  Easy prey for this are people who don't dispute the charge with their bank and people who don't press charges.

vvpan 3mo ago

A complimentary complaint is that payments are a "pull" operation with subscriptions. You can't decide who gets your money. How retro is that!

brookside 3mo ago

Bending Spoons acquired Evernote: "What is Bending Spoons? The little-known AOL and Vimeo owner that's now public" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48799966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48799966

The_Blade 3mo ago
yes, that is happening to me real-time, the article in the Economist reminded me (https://www.economist.com/business/2026/07/01/can-bending-spoons-thrive-as-a-listed-company https://www.economist.com/business/2026/07/01/can-bending-sp...), right down to Evernote being the one they are attempting to gouge me on at best and charge illegally at worst. so i had a closer look at bank and PayPal GLs i found similar issues with Paddle (attempted to quit), Proton (double charged), Splashtop (attempted to quit), and Bloomberg via Apple (attempted to quit) and the common thread is PayPal. never Stripe. my PayPal account is ancient (2002) and knowing what i know about payments (perhaps a little) i believe there is something akin to a hole regarding legacy pre-auth tokens in a PayPal architecture which is old enough to run for the US House. at least Bending Spoons would be willfully exploiting such a hole, because after i refunded / cancelled, 9 days later they were able to charge again. PayPal also seems to have an open marriage with PCI-DSS / SOC2

MBCook 3mo ago

There’s a reason they were used as a poster child of a bad actor when the FTC rule was made a few years ago, before the current administration shredded it.

JSR_FDED 3mo ago

I was so annoyed with how slimy Evernote had become and how the product regressed and they were clearly not spending money on it, I switched to Apple Notes and have been very happy.

inigyou 3mo ago

Chargeback time! Hopefully they get banned from the payment networks for too many fraudulent payments.