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Is uncensored a selling point? What do people use uncensored Grok for (like, real use cases) that they can't or won't use other LLMs for? Literally the only thi
by nozzlegear 4mo ago
Is uncensored a selling point? What do people use uncensored Grok for (like, real use cases) that they can't or won't use other LLMs for? Literally the only thing I can think of is generating bad porn of unconsenting people.
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- tick_tock_tick 4mo agoI mean absolutely read any thread about Fabel and it's fill with people complaining about how it instantly downgrades or refuses if anything has CVE in the name. Other then that there is the whole alignment issue. Models that are 'nerfed' in just about any manner tend to exhibit reduced performance is seemingly unrelated areas. That said Grok doesn't appear to be close enough to the frontier for that to matter. Maybe if they catch up it will.
- nozzlegear 4mo agoThanks for the reply. I only use local/open models, and don't use them for security work, so I don't have much exposure to frontier alignment and Fable/Mythos stuff beyond what I read from others here on HN.
- gopher_space 4mo agoI don't really have a use for a model that thinks "how many people are in this photo?" is a political question.
- nozzlegear 4mo agoI don't know what you're referencing.
- user43928 4mo agoSome have mentioned legal work. OpenAI and Anhropic models would refuse to work on cases where something immoral happened.
- nozzlegear 4mo agoThanks, that's does sound like a tricky edge case for the other "censored" companies.
- subhobroto 4mo ago> What do people use uncensored Grok for (like, real use cases) that they can't or won't use other LLMs for? Literally the only thing I can think of is generating bad porn of unconsenting people untrue. There's a full thread about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48837162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48837162 - but as much as I love Claude products, nothing's more aggravating than it refusing to help me diagnose a stack trace because it "violates Anthopic policy".
- peterspath 4mo agoSecurity stuff. Poking holes in my app and suggest fixes.