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Except for the hundred thousands if not millions of people who lost their Minecraft account due to the way Microsoft handled multiple successive account migrati

by amlib 3mo ago

Except for the hundred thousands if not millions of people who lost their Minecraft account due to the way Microsoft handled multiple successive account migrations, also including the many accounts that were stolen due to lax security. And since digital ownership legislation is a joke consumers have pretty much no recourse.

0cf8612b2e1e 3mo ago
Beat me to it. I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I really am curious to see some of the changes that have happened since I last played (when still owned by Notch), but I refuse to repurchase it.
- galleywest200 3mo ago
  > I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I kept my Minecraft license after migrating to a Microsoft account. Unsure how it got messed up for you.
  - NekkoDroid 3mo ago
    > Unsure how it got messed up for you. If you didn't transfer it from your Mojang account to your Microsoft account in time (before the account was shut down) you just straight up lost access to it.
    - thibaut_barrere 3mo ago
      And sometimes, like in Sharepoint, the process could not be completed.
    - decremental 3mo ago
      [dead]
    - topgrain2 3mo ago
      Microsoft accounts being an absolute pain in the ass to set up and manage, and the new launcher being aggressively terrible, are salt in the wound even if you finally gave in and migrated your account. Also, good luck running Microsoft’s Minecraft launcher on a kid’s computer with allowlist-only internet access. It connects to like 20 apparently-random IP addresses every time it launches, will not work if any of them fails, and the pool of addresses is evidently huge. I never did find anything like a list of IP blocks to allow. Maybe they keep a file with them all in it somewhere, never looked, but I have a feeling they hit one address that gives them their list of the others for each session, and only that list, like if I had to bet on it I’d go with that (if they had a larger list, why aren’t they re-trying with different addresses when one fails?). I guess they just don’t care about that use case. (“Why don’t parents just police their kids’ internet access?” yeah look some of us really try but shit like this is everywhere and makes it stupidly difficult)
  - deleted 3mo ago
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  - 0cf8612b2e1e 3mo ago
    I don’t know what to say. I went to the migration site, entered my information-no dice. Contacted support and got no assistance. There are others with a similar experience. Microsoft could have gone above and beyond to manage the forced migration. Instead there was a convoluted process which left many cheated. They could have just punted and automatically emailed brand new entitlement codes to all of the original purchase emails. Yes, people who switched emails would have been missed, but that would have covered 95%+ of customers in a single action.
    - Tostino 3mo ago
      Also have a version purchased back when Notch owned. Not played since and have no access. Oh well.
      - DANmode 3mo ago
        Pirated and modded scene is the place to be anyway - so I hear.
        Grombobulous 3mo ago
        Modded, yes. The Minecraft mod scene is incredible. The Create mod ecosystem is my favorite. Pirated? Really? How cheap are you guys? It’s a $30 game with all ~15 years of content updates included. I’m not trying to be some kind of corporate bootlicker here but I think you have to have apathy toward taking care of the stuff you own to have failed to get your Minecraft license converted from the Mojang account.
        Tostino 3mo ago
        People get busy... I was building my startup around that time period, and didn't really play games for ~5 years. Why would I reward a company that already stole from me with another purchase?
        Grombobulous 3mo ago
  - Bratmon 3mo ago
    There were two migrations: 1. Minecraft account to Mojang account 2. Mojang account to Microsoft account Both had a 3-year deadline. If you failed to do either before their deadline, then your "lifetime" Minecraft account is completely dead with no possibility of recovery.
  - wink 3mo ago
    I didn't lose it per se but it was kind of an ordeal to migrate it from Mojang to MS back then and I had to actually involve support, but in the end it worked. Have not logged in for years so maybe I have lost it meanwhile ;)
giancarlostoro 3mo ago
Or when they decided to wipe people's Hotmail accounts. Now some random person has my original hotmail that I had since the 90s through to the 2010s... Presumably, this person now indirectly has a ton of my original accounts for different services I can no longer access... thanks Microsoft.
- Telaneo 3mo ago
  I'm so happy I managed to transfer everything important over to my own domain before anything like that happened. I still have my old Hotmail and Gmail, and while nothing important shows up there, there's still a trickle of non-spam email coming in there, even after 5 and 10 years since I transferred everything I could remember at the time.
arjie 3mo ago
Haha, I was one of these people. I'm unreasonably salty about this (given the monetary loss is not high and I got a lot of playtime out of the game back then), especially because I also had one of those Alpha keys unused as well!
ThrowawayTestr 3mo ago
You had years to move your Minecraft account
- skotobaza 3mo ago
  Is two years period supposed to be a lot? What if a person haven't played the game for five years (which happens quite often) then comes back and sees that it's gone?
mastermage 3mo ago
Yeah i belong to them i have an ancient account that was connected to a shitty mail hoster that deleted mail accounts after not use and i paid back then with a paysafe card. So i had no way to rpove ownership and got shafted. Abit of my fault I guess but i was like 14 when I bought it.
danudey 3mo ago
I lost my original minecraft account because I wasn't able to get in contact with them. I had the original purchase information as required, but it wouldn't accept it. I contacted the e-mail address they said to get in touch with but heard nothing. No matter what I did nothing happened and now my old account is gone forever.

by amlib 3mo ago

0cf8612b2e1e 3mo ago

Beat me to it. I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I really am curious to see some of the changes that have happened since I last played (when still owned by Notch), but I refuse to repurchase it.

galleywest200 3mo ago
> I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I kept my Minecraft license after migrating to a Microsoft account. Unsure how it got messed up for you.
- NekkoDroid 3mo ago
  > Unsure how it got messed up for you. If you didn't transfer it from your Mojang account to your Microsoft account in time (before the account was shut down) you just straight up lost access to it.
  - thibaut_barrere 3mo ago
    And sometimes, like in Sharepoint, the process could not be completed.
  - decremental 3mo ago
    [dead]
  - topgrain2 3mo ago
    Microsoft accounts being an absolute pain in the ass to set up and manage, and the new launcher being aggressively terrible, are salt in the wound even if you finally gave in and migrated your account. Also, good luck running Microsoft’s Minecraft launcher on a kid’s computer with allowlist-only internet access. It connects to like 20 apparently-random IP addresses every time it launches, will not work if any of them fails, and the pool of addresses is evidently huge. I never did find anything like a list of IP blocks to allow. Maybe they keep a file with them all in it somewhere, never looked, but I have a feeling they hit one address that gives them their list of the others for each session, and only that list, like if I had to bet on it I’d go with that (if they had a larger list, why aren’t they re-trying with different addresses when one fails?). I guess they just don’t care about that use case. (“Why don’t parents just police their kids’ internet access?” yeah look some of us really try but shit like this is everywhere and makes it stupidly difficult)
- deleted 3mo ago
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- 0cf8612b2e1e 3mo ago
  I don’t know what to say. I went to the migration site, entered my information-no dice. Contacted support and got no assistance. There are others with a similar experience. Microsoft could have gone above and beyond to manage the forced migration. Instead there was a convoluted process which left many cheated. They could have just punted and automatically emailed brand new entitlement codes to all of the original purchase emails. Yes, people who switched emails would have been missed, but that would have covered 95%+ of customers in a single action.
  - Tostino 3mo ago
    Also have a version purchased back when Notch owned. Not played since and have no access. Oh well.
    - DANmode 3mo ago
      Pirated and modded scene is the place to be anyway - so I hear.
      - Grombobulous 3mo ago
        Modded, yes. The Minecraft mod scene is incredible. The Create mod ecosystem is my favorite. Pirated? Really? How cheap are you guys? It’s a $30 game with all ~15 years of content updates included. I’m not trying to be some kind of corporate bootlicker here but I think you have to have apathy toward taking care of the stuff you own to have failed to get your Minecraft license converted from the Mojang account.
        Tostino 3mo ago
        People get busy... I was building my startup around that time period, and didn't really play games for ~5 years. Why would I reward a company that already stole from me with another purchase?
        Grombobulous 3mo ago
- Bratmon 3mo ago
  There were two migrations: 1. Minecraft account to Mojang account 2. Mojang account to Microsoft account Both had a 3-year deadline. If you failed to do either before their deadline, then your "lifetime" Minecraft account is completely dead with no possibility of recovery.
- wink 3mo ago
  I didn't lose it per se but it was kind of an ordeal to migrate it from Mojang to MS back then and I had to actually involve support, but in the end it worked. Have not logged in for years so maybe I have lost it meanwhile ;)

giancarlostoro 3mo ago

Or when they decided to wipe people's Hotmail accounts. Now some random person has my original hotmail that I had since the 90s through to the 2010s... Presumably, this person now indirectly has a ton of my original accounts for different services I can no longer access... thanks Microsoft.

Telaneo 3mo ago
I'm so happy I managed to transfer everything important over to my own domain before anything like that happened. I still have my old Hotmail and Gmail, and while nothing important shows up there, there's still a trickle of non-spam email coming in there, even after 5 and 10 years since I transferred everything I could remember at the time.

arjie 3mo ago

Haha, I was one of these people. I'm unreasonably salty about this (given the monetary loss is not high and I got a lot of playtime out of the game back then), especially because I also had one of those Alpha keys unused as well!

ThrowawayTestr 3mo ago

You had years to move your Minecraft account

skotobaza 3mo ago
Is two years period supposed to be a lot? What if a person haven't played the game for five years (which happens quite often) then comes back and sees that it's gone?

mastermage 3mo ago

Yeah i belong to them i have an ancient account that was connected to a shitty mail hoster that deleted mail accounts after not use and i paid back then with a paysafe card. So i had no way to rpove ownership and got shafted. Abit of my fault I guess but i was like 14 when I bought it.

danudey 3mo ago

I lost my original minecraft account because I wasn't able to get in contact with them. I had the original purchase information as required, but it wouldn't accept it. I contacted the e-mail address they said to get in touch with but heard nothing. No matter what I did nothing happened and now my old account is gone forever.