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Large corporations like Microsoft under constant pressure from investors are slapping AI onto every single product offering just so they can claim they're an AI

by neya 3mo ago

Large corporations like Microsoft under constant pressure from investors are slapping AI onto every single product offering just so they can claim they're an AI company now. Just like what Adobe did. So yeah, that didn't end well and probably this wouldn't either. Consumers are getting tired of these half-assed AI integrations and there will be a breaking point soon.

adamddev1 3mo ago
I'm done. Moving to Forgejo. It's wonderful and everything works better. Seriously like everything is instant when you click around, and CI with a runner works beautifully. (The documentation for setting up the runner could be a tad clearer but otherwise everything was so painless.)
- alex_suzuki 3mo ago
  Self-hosted, or are you using something managed? I’ve held off switching from Gitlab for now as everything is setup and runs ok, but they’re pushing their AI hard into every corner. Not a lot of good managed options around (yet), especially in Europe. Codey (https://www.codey.ch/ https://www.codey.ch/) is pretty expensive and doesn’t offer runners out of the box.
  - adamddev1 3mo ago
    Self-hosted. It runs great on a tiny VPS with other services. But I did have to get a cheaper Hetzner server (5 Euros-ish for 4GB RAM) to run the runner. Forgejo feels like a refreshing blast from the past. No intrusive AI cramming. The Web Interface is snappy and responsive, not waiting for constant loaders and spinners. It takes almost no resources to run.
- neya 3mo ago
  Wow, I never heard of Forgejo before. Going to give it a shot. Thanks!
  - adamddev1 3mo ago
    It's a fork of Gitea. I am very happy with it.
yieldcrv 3mo ago
Agreed but I think enterprise AI offerings are pretty impressive, investors and consumers aren’t really aware, employees aren’t able to trade The revenue is there and also impressive, and supplanting consumer and seat based revenue The market is still shedding SaaS multiples, which I think is accurate, but break out the revenue in those quarterly reports and there is a huge growth story, from real efficiencies
sneak 3mo ago
Microsoft is a publicly traded company. Which investors are causing them to shit up GitHub with AI features nobody wants? In which venues?
- inigyou 3mo ago
  The imaginary pressure of investors. When you actually ask investors if they care about most of the things CEOs think investors will care about, they don't.
  - 27183 3mo ago
    The same thing happens much lower down the ladder: when you ask customers if they care about most of the things managers (or engineers) think customers care about, they don't.
    - inigyou 3mo ago
      The same thing is how a law about "if you hack someone we might arrest you" ends up causing internet providers to shut down a connection upon a single errant packet. I had a $400/month server turned off because of a single failed TCP connection to the wrong address which ended up on an abuse database. If they'd gone to a court they would've been laughed out of it, but the provider's upstream's upstream's upstream wants to avoid court (even though that wouldn't happen), and so every step in that chain gets more paranoid about upsetting the previous link until then a typo in an address gets your server turned off until you reply to your server host.
  - ThunderSizzle 3mo ago
    If I'm picking a stock to buy (in the "retail" market, it's primarily based on a balance of EPS, P/E ratio, and a low(er) amount of debt. My P/E filter filters out the likes of Nvidia, Amazon, etc, whereas my debt filter ensures the smaller cap companies won't be swallowed by their debt like many businesses are. Who knows if I'm smart or an idiot.
- neya 3mo ago

by neya 3mo ago

adamddev1 3mo ago

I'm done. Moving to Forgejo. It's wonderful and everything works better. Seriously like everything is instant when you click around, and CI with a runner works beautifully. (The documentation for setting up the runner could be a tad clearer but otherwise everything was so painless.)

alex_suzuki 3mo ago
Self-hosted, or are you using something managed? I’ve held off switching from Gitlab for now as everything is setup and runs ok, but they’re pushing their AI hard into every corner. Not a lot of good managed options around (yet), especially in Europe. Codey (https://www.codey.ch/ https://www.codey.ch/) is pretty expensive and doesn’t offer runners out of the box.
- adamddev1 3mo ago
  Self-hosted. It runs great on a tiny VPS with other services. But I did have to get a cheaper Hetzner server (5 Euros-ish for 4GB RAM) to run the runner. Forgejo feels like a refreshing blast from the past. No intrusive AI cramming. The Web Interface is snappy and responsive, not waiting for constant loaders and spinners. It takes almost no resources to run.
neya 3mo ago
Wow, I never heard of Forgejo before. Going to give it a shot. Thanks!
- adamddev1 3mo ago
  It's a fork of Gitea. I am very happy with it.

yieldcrv 3mo ago

Agreed but I think enterprise AI offerings are pretty impressive, investors and consumers aren’t really aware, employees aren’t able to trade The revenue is there and also impressive, and supplanting consumer and seat based revenue The market is still shedding SaaS multiples, which I think is accurate, but break out the revenue in those quarterly reports and there is a huge growth story, from real efficiencies

sneak 3mo ago

Microsoft is a publicly traded company. Which investors are causing them to shit up GitHub with AI features nobody wants? In which venues?

inigyou 3mo ago
The imaginary pressure of investors. When you actually ask investors if they care about most of the things CEOs think investors will care about, they don't.
- 27183 3mo ago
  The same thing happens much lower down the ladder: when you ask customers if they care about most of the things managers (or engineers) think customers care about, they don't.
  - inigyou 3mo ago
    The same thing is how a law about "if you hack someone we might arrest you" ends up causing internet providers to shut down a connection upon a single errant packet. I had a $400/month server turned off because of a single failed TCP connection to the wrong address which ended up on an abuse database. If they'd gone to a court they would've been laughed out of it, but the provider's upstream's upstream's upstream wants to avoid court (even though that wouldn't happen), and so every step in that chain gets more paranoid about upsetting the previous link until then a typo in an address gets your server turned off until you reply to your server host.
- ThunderSizzle 3mo ago
  If I'm picking a stock to buy (in the "retail" market, it's primarily based on a balance of EPS, P/E ratio, and a low(er) amount of debt. My P/E filter filters out the likes of Nvidia, Amazon, etc, whereas my debt filter ensures the smaller cap companies won't be swallowed by their debt like many businesses are. Who knows if I'm smart or an idiot.
neya 3mo ago