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> Not a great time price-wise to be building a NAS That under-states the matter. It is a terrible time, price-wise, to build a NAS. I'd almost rather have no
by realityfactchex 3mo ago
> Not a great time price-wise to be building a NAS
That under-states the matter. It is a terrible time, price-wise, to build a NAS.
I'd almost rather have no AI whatsoever and have storage 1/10 the price of pre-AI times.
(If there were a magical choice between having AI and significantly more expensive storage, and having no AI and some program to dump that investment money into getting and somehow leveraging significantly more available storage, that is.)
- bigstrat2003 3mo agoI would kill (figuratively, anyway) to have no AI whatsoever. No slop machine threatening to replace my job, or turn my job into babysitting its stupidity, and hardware would be reasonably priced? That would be awesome. AI has brought me nothing but downside.
- dandanua 3mo agoBut we now have trillionaires, aren't you happy about that? It means you might be the one some day too /s
- i_idiot 3mo agoI immigrated wanting to become a millionaire. Never found time working my ass off. Now that I get pension and tokens from Musk and Zuck, I can finally try!
- dotancohen 3mo agoAI has freed most people I know from the tedious job of writing actual emails and birthday greetings - leaving then more time to e.g. wash dishes or clean the floor. Seriously, if arts and creativity is what sets humans apart from other animals, then AI has almost completely displaced our capacity to even consider doing these activities ourselves. People reach for AI when they should be composing a birthday greeting themselves.
- sgt 3mo agoIs it a genuine birthday greeting if you just let AI do the job?
- Brian_K_White 3mo agothat was their point
- socalgal2 3mo agoWas it a genuine birthday greeting when you bought a card? Or used an online card? I don’t really see the difference. The point is you thought of them, not the actual words
- actionfromafar 3mo agoWith AI you don't have to think about them.
- cheschire 3mo agoGreat business opportunity there. Make a free service that sends AI generated birthday notes to people. All the user has to provide is the other persons birthday. People cannot be relied upon to provide accurate birthdays but nobody would suffer the social faux pas of an incorrect birthday congrats note. Nor would they send it to a spam catching email, but rather are guaranteed to send it to a regularly checked address. They know the persons birthday after all. You can then sell high quality birthday information correlated to contact information to ad agencies. Fuck this current internet. So dystopian.
- actionfromafar 3mo agoThen the receiver AI can thank the sending AI before deleting.
- bluGill 3mo agoI used to write birthday emails to my friends years ago. I quit when calendar systems started automatically promoting me when birthdays happened. Remembering someone's birthday no longer seemed like a significant effort on my part and so it wasn't worth the bother since it didn't say as much.
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- randusername 3mo agoI'm doing it anyway and I've found some secondhand deals. Maybe COVID homelabbers are offloading gear? I built a 24 TB HDD NAS in a 36 bay chassis for around $1000 all-in: mb, ram, rails, chassis, rack, disks, hba, nic Awful Watts/TB but the plan is to run it and the GPU rig on solar.
- trollbridge 3mo agoI obtained a used Dell PowerEdge and just stuffed a bunch of drives in there. It's old enough that the RAM is not overly expensive (DDR3), so it has 192GB of RAM to effectively cache the data, and then 32TB of raw storage. (Of course I regret not spending the extra money to take it to 384GB now.) The nice thing about the array being big is that I can just RAID 1 it instead of worrying about tinkering with RAID 5, and leave a drive as a hot spare. PCIe 2.5G NIC for the uplink, and then it can serve over SMB or iSCSI. The main use case for this thing, incidentally, is it just is a caching proxy that holds Docker images, models off of Huggingface, and so on.
- bix6 3mo ago36 bay? Why so many?
- randusername 3mo agoThe 36 bay was all I could find on fb marketplace. I fell in love with the silly idea of squeezing 10G NIC + 10G writes (to a 2x12 RAID 10 HDD array) on the thunderbolt bus of my 12 year old macbook pro. Then I got distracted with the server mb and truenas and ZFS.
- RulerOf 3mo ago36 bays and only 24T of storage? Can't you get that in a single disk that costs less than a kilodollar?
- a96 3mo agoThat will be a single point of failure, though. (Which you might not care about depending on the backup strategy.)
- wolrah 3mo ago> I'd almost rather have no AI whatsoever and have storage 1/10 the price of pre-AI times. Almost? ALMOST!?!?! If you handed me a button that would make it like LLMs had never existed I'd be slamming that button so hard Sam Altman's clothes would spin around. Return memory and storage prices to normal, undo the sloppification of ~everything, remove all these annoying "features" that are so useful they have to force them upon people, and make scammers actually have to put in a slight bit of effort, all at the "cost" of real human developers, artists, writers, etc. getting paid for their work.... If this is a hard decision for you, you are the problem.
- sgarland 3mo agoSame. Every time I think about this, I come back to the fact that I was excellent at my job before AI, and even enjoyed aspects of it, so I would be fine if tomorrow it all blew up.
- alex43578 3mo agoHey everyone, stop progress! Wolrah has decided that November 29, 2022 is as far as things should go. Because everyone knows before that day, there were no scams, every artist lived lavishly from commissions, and software was flawless and without any extraneous features.
- techpression 3mo agoThere's a difference between standing in the rain and being hit by a tsunami, even if it's both just water.
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- jraph 3mo agoThat's quite uncharitable. What are you trying to achieve here? They (probably) don't want to stop progress (especially unqualified like this) in general. They'd like a world where LLMs didn't come to exist. And whether LLMs are progress at all remains to be proven.
- philjohn 3mo agoYou're telling me. I had a drive go bad in my 4 year old home-built NAS a few weeks ago, and it cost 2x what it originally did to buy the same capacity drive, and that was going to a grey-market importer on eBay, it was more on "reputable" sites.
- nirav72 3mo agoLooking at current hd prices, I keep kicking myself for giving away several 3tb and couple of 4tb drives I had in my unraid server few years ago when I started upgrading my array to 8 and 12tb drives. At the time, a drive slot in my server was more valuable to me than a mere 3tb drive. i could have kept them for emergencies if any one of my array drives fail.