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Sure but it’s also a microscopically small component of the country’s overall economy.

by stouset 3mo ago

zuzululu 3mo ago
canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi with increasing amount of migration from third world countries putting strain on its resources and with almost no plans other than to tax the already overstretched middle class its almost the exact dilemma in Western Europe except the only saving grace is military security is guaranteed by its larger and richer neighbor
- sanswork 3mo ago
  Canada's GDP is $2.2t vs $165b for Mississippi. Immigration rate is decreasing.
  - zuzululu 3mo ago
    thanks for bringing this up and I have to reiterate the importance of per capita which is something that is curiously ignored in these discussions but I'm sure you know the difference from just measuring GDP alone and just forgot about it Canada's nominal GDP per capita is roughly $53,800 USD, which places it nearly on par with Mississippi also Canada admits people from third world countries at a per-capita rate roughly four times higher than the United States, with none of the enforcement agencies capable of tackling illegal immigration which a lot of this demographic engages in. It's difficult for ICE now imagine Canada which has no such enforcement on the same scale my point is that Canada has a smaller economy but imports more from the third world than its much richer and powerful neighbor. this is not a sustainable arrangement.
    - cwillu 3mo ago
      If you don't say the words “per capita”, you don't get credit for having said them.
    - watwut 3mo ago
      And still, Canada has higher living standards, better healthcare, school system, criminal justice and lower murder rates. No, Canada is not as poor as Missisipy.
    - jollyllama 3mo ago
      > It's difficult for ICE now imagine Canada which has no such enforcement on the same scale A massive federal agency rounding up illegal immigrants actually isn't that effective, as has been seen in the USA. What actually works is making it impossible to find a job or housing without proof of citizenship - which is being done in Canada BTW
      - zuzululu 3mo ago
        cnada does not make employment or housing impossible without proof of citizenship there are massive illegal labor market especially in the construction food service jobs. Also the check is minimal and poorly enforced or tracked. It's the same situation in rentals there are routine subletting via cash one of my partner so again the enforcement mechanisms fall apart here and you will see this to be a repeating pattern throughout canadian society where there are laws but are hardly enforced or resources spent equally. if illegal presence has almost no chance of interior enforcement, then overstaying or working illegally becomes a rational bet. If arrests, detention, removals, and employer raids become credible again, behavior changes that's the whole point of ICE raids they know they can't deport millions of people but to change the behavior of the demographic that they are targeting. This is something that Canada neither has the political capital to pursue.
- ipaddr 3mo ago
  Canada ranks 4th. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-canada-would-rank-as-the-51st-state/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-canada-would-rank-as-th...
  - physicalecon 3mo ago
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- wasabi991011 3mo ago
  > canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi No, it isn't. Not true in absolute terms, not true per capita, not true adjusted for purchasing power.
  - vlovich123 3mo ago
    It is true per capita in USD dollars due to the weak Canadian dollar. Mississippi has better purchasing power
    - zuzululu 3mo ago
      absolutely. its the "poorest" state too
      - hluska 3mo ago
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    - wasabi991011 3mo ago
      No, it isn't, at least according to here [1] (data from worldbank). This is in nominal USD as almost all calculations of GDP. If you compare by purchasing power, Canada likely pulls out ahead since Canada has a lower price level than the US [2] (can't find Mississippi-specific price level). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... section "U.S. states by GDP per capita if they were sovereign states" [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
      - vlovich123 3mo ago
        You can’t just say “no it isn’t” when your own link disagrees with you. From your link per capita GDP for Mississippi $55,877 in 2025 compared with $60,305 in 2026 for Canada [1]. That seems pretty similar. My point was that when the Canadian dollar is weak GDP in USD decreases while when it’s strong GDP increases without anything about the country’s output changing - that’s the challenging of comparing by normalizing against a single currency. I’ll let you do your own purchasing power math but Mississippi has significantly cheaper prices as part of America than Canada. Canada has a stronger safety net but that isn’t about purchasing power to much other than health insurance being baked into your taxes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada
- bparsons 3mo ago
  The Canada hater has logged on.

Sure but it’s also a microscopically small component of the country’s overall economy.

by stouset 3mo ago

Sure but it’s also a microscopically small component of the country’s overall economy.

canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi with increasing amount of migration from third world countries putting strain on its resources and with almost no plans other than to tax the already overstretched middle class its almost the exact dilemma in Western Europe except the only saving grace is military security is guaranteed by its larger and richer neighbor

sanswork 3mo ago
Canada's GDP is $2.2t vs $165b for Mississippi. Immigration rate is decreasing.
- zuzululu 3mo ago
  thanks for bringing this up and I have to reiterate the importance of per capita which is something that is curiously ignored in these discussions but I'm sure you know the difference from just measuring GDP alone and just forgot about it Canada's nominal GDP per capita is roughly $53,800 USD, which places it nearly on par with Mississippi also Canada admits people from third world countries at a per-capita rate roughly four times higher than the United States, with none of the enforcement agencies capable of tackling illegal immigration which a lot of this demographic engages in. It's difficult for ICE now imagine Canada which has no such enforcement on the same scale my point is that Canada has a smaller economy but imports more from the third world than its much richer and powerful neighbor. this is not a sustainable arrangement.
  - cwillu 3mo ago
    If you don't say the words “per capita”, you don't get credit for having said them.
  - watwut 3mo ago
    And still, Canada has higher living standards, better healthcare, school system, criminal justice and lower murder rates. No, Canada is not as poor as Missisipy.
  - jollyllama 3mo ago
    > It's difficult for ICE now imagine Canada which has no such enforcement on the same scale A massive federal agency rounding up illegal immigrants actually isn't that effective, as has been seen in the USA. What actually works is making it impossible to find a job or housing without proof of citizenship - which is being done in Canada BTW
    - zuzululu 3mo ago
      cnada does not make employment or housing impossible without proof of citizenship there are massive illegal labor market especially in the construction food service jobs. Also the check is minimal and poorly enforced or tracked. It's the same situation in rentals there are routine subletting via cash one of my partner so again the enforcement mechanisms fall apart here and you will see this to be a repeating pattern throughout canadian society where there are laws but are hardly enforced or resources spent equally. if illegal presence has almost no chance of interior enforcement, then overstaying or working illegally becomes a rational bet. If arrests, detention, removals, and employer raids become credible again, behavior changes that's the whole point of ICE raids they know they can't deport millions of people but to change the behavior of the demographic that they are targeting. This is something that Canada neither has the political capital to pursue.
ipaddr 3mo ago
Canada ranks 4th. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-canada-would-rank-as-the-51st-state/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-canada-would-rank-as-th...
- physicalecon 3mo ago
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wasabi991011 3mo ago
> canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi No, it isn't. Not true in absolute terms, not true per capita, not true adjusted for purchasing power.
- vlovich123 3mo ago
  It is true per capita in USD dollars due to the weak Canadian dollar. Mississippi has better purchasing power
  - zuzululu 3mo ago
    absolutely. its the "poorest" state too
    - hluska 3mo ago
      [flagged]
  - wasabi991011 3mo ago
    No, it isn't, at least according to here [1] (data from worldbank). This is in nominal USD as almost all calculations of GDP. If you compare by purchasing power, Canada likely pulls out ahead since Canada has a lower price level than the US [2] (can't find Mississippi-specific price level). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... section "U.S. states by GDP per capita if they were sovereign states" [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
    - vlovich123 3mo ago
      You can’t just say “no it isn’t” when your own link disagrees with you. From your link per capita GDP for Mississippi $55,877 in 2025 compared with $60,305 in 2026 for Canada [1]. That seems pretty similar. My point was that when the Canadian dollar is weak GDP in USD decreases while when it’s strong GDP increases without anything about the country’s output changing - that’s the challenging of comparing by normalizing against a single currency. I’ll let you do your own purchasing power math but Mississippi has significantly cheaper prices as part of America than Canada. Canada has a stronger safety net but that isn’t about purchasing power to much other than health insurance being baked into your taxes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada
bparsons 3mo ago
The Canada hater has logged on.