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First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes

First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes a shitty comment. Is that correct?

mathisfun123 3mo ago
100% correct (anyone on hn for longer than 3 months will recognize that this is exactly the culture here).
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RobRivera 3mo ago
Shitty comment? From my point of view the Jedi are Evil
gjvc 3mo ago
not shitty enough
crossroadsguy 3mo ago
That's just hn for you. Not that it's a good thing (as per me at least), but that's what hn is, no matter how much it (or few from here) tries to think/pretend otherwise.
altmanaltman 3mo ago
It actually got to the front page though? I think what's more ironic is that the top comment thread on this is devolving into a discussion about hacker news meta and nobody in the comments section has written even 1 line about what these papers are or the subject or how useful they/the website is. Yes that is correct.
kristopolous 3mo ago
No. It's quality control. This is a classic clickbait formula headline with 0 backing. I just typed "list 30 papers to get me started in machine learning" into an llm and got 27/30 of these... This page is an LLM prompt response as a list of jpegs with a fake title. You can probably just add "and prepare it as a webpage with image previews for each" ... I think we can do better than someone shitposting a sentence into openclaw and getting it to the frontpage. People on here are actually building 100 billion dollar companies, publishing in prestigious journals, maintaining transcontinental infrastructures with global reach... let's hear from them instead of a mac mini going burr for 15 seconds.
fedeb95 3mo ago
First year CD student excited to learn puts together a website, and more experienced guys makes a shitty comment that puts things into context. Then someone makes a funny comment mimicking its structure. Is that correct?
unselect5917 3mo ago
Many here mistake passive aggressiveness for civility. So does the rule enforcement.
bartread 3mo ago
It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting something to HN (or, really, any large internet forum), negative feedback - and dismissive feedback - is something you need to be prepared for as part and parcel of the experience because it often is going to happen. Not that I agree with the person you're responding to - their remark struck me as quite a mean-spirited and unnecessary comment, and I very much prefer your perspective. Anyway, I've bookmarked the site so make of that what you will.
- kinlan 3mo ago
  It's hard sometimes because say it's something that I wrote but someone else posted to HN, I've just had a lot of people's opinions foisted on me. I'm relatively immune to a lot of things, but we're also entering a world where a lot of people can build and might not expect to have potentially millions of people critiquing their work to the level they do.
- Rzor 3mo ago
  We are way past that point now. It's a common tendency around here, especially taking into account how often those type of posts are actually the ones on the top. Gladly we still have people like your parent to call them out immediately.
  - bartread 3mo ago
    Yeah, but eventually the downvoting/community moderation will do its work: it just takes a few hours sometimes. But the original unkind remark has gone from top level comment to nowhere near the top of the discussion (at least I haven't managed to find it other than via my own profile because of all the newer and more upvoted discussion that's happened) fairly quickly.
- whiplash451 3mo ago
Citizen_Lame 3mo ago
First year CS student is already vibe coding something which lacks basic presentation skills. If he was really excited he would have put an effort and he wouldn't clickbate submission title. But alas here we are, perhaps we should give him particpation star for effort.
dahart 3mo ago
I tend to be amused that the complaints about what’s on the front page don’t seem to grasp the irony of complaining to the group of people that voted it there.
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antonvs 3mo ago
> First year CS student ...who somehow hasn't yet learned the importance of citing sources? Any and all criticism is deserved.

First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes a shitty comment. Is that correct?

mathisfun123 3mo ago

100% correct (anyone on hn for longer than 3 months will recognize that this is exactly the culture here).

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RobRivera 3mo ago

Shitty comment? From my point of view the Jedi are Evil

gjvc 3mo ago

not shitty enough

crossroadsguy 3mo ago

That's just hn for you. Not that it's a good thing (as per me at least), but that's what hn is, no matter how much it (or few from here) tries to think/pretend otherwise.

altmanaltman 3mo ago

It actually got to the front page though? I think what's more ironic is that the top comment thread on this is devolving into a discussion about hacker news meta and nobody in the comments section has written even 1 line about what these papers are or the subject or how useful they/the website is. Yes that is correct.

kristopolous 3mo ago

No. It's quality control. This is a classic clickbait formula headline with 0 backing. I just typed "list 30 papers to get me started in machine learning" into an llm and got 27/30 of these... This page is an LLM prompt response as a list of jpegs with a fake title. You can probably just add "and prepare it as a webpage with image previews for each" ... I think we can do better than someone shitposting a sentence into openclaw and getting it to the frontpage. People on here are actually building 100 billion dollar companies, publishing in prestigious journals, maintaining transcontinental infrastructures with global reach... let's hear from them instead of a mac mini going burr for 15 seconds.

fedeb95 3mo ago

First year CD student excited to learn puts together a website, and more experienced guys makes a shitty comment that puts things into context. Then someone makes a funny comment mimicking its structure. Is that correct?

unselect5917 3mo ago

Many here mistake passive aggressiveness for civility. So does the rule enforcement.

bartread 3mo ago

It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting something to HN (or, really, any large internet forum), negative feedback - and dismissive feedback - is something you need to be prepared for as part and parcel of the experience because it often is going to happen. Not that I agree with the person you're responding to - their remark struck me as quite a mean-spirited and unnecessary comment, and I very much prefer your perspective. Anyway, I've bookmarked the site so make of that what you will.

kinlan 3mo ago
It's hard sometimes because say it's something that I wrote but someone else posted to HN, I've just had a lot of people's opinions foisted on me. I'm relatively immune to a lot of things, but we're also entering a world where a lot of people can build and might not expect to have potentially millions of people critiquing their work to the level they do.
Rzor 3mo ago
We are way past that point now. It's a common tendency around here, especially taking into account how often those type of posts are actually the ones on the top. Gladly we still have people like your parent to call them out immediately.
- bartread 3mo ago
  Yeah, but eventually the downvoting/community moderation will do its work: it just takes a few hours sometimes. But the original unkind remark has gone from top level comment to nowhere near the top of the discussion (at least I haven't managed to find it other than via my own profile because of all the newer and more upvoted discussion that's happened) fairly quickly.
whiplash451 3mo ago

Citizen_Lame 3mo ago

First year CS student is already vibe coding something which lacks basic presentation skills. If he was really excited he would have put an effort and he wouldn't clickbate submission title. But alas here we are, perhaps we should give him particpation star for effort.

dahart 3mo ago

I tend to be amused that the complaints about what’s on the front page don’t seem to grasp the irony of complaining to the group of people that voted it there.

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antonvs 3mo ago

> First year CS student ...who somehow hasn't yet learned the importance of citing sources? Any and all criticism is deserved.