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- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- luciana1u 3mo ago[flagged]
- Klathmon 3mo agoHow many of these images are there? I cycled through a few and ended up hitting at least one duplicate [1] that I do actually enjoy (but I can't find the name of it now that I refreshed the page, I know it had the verrazzano narrows bridge in the title) Is there a chance a site like this could ruin their metric by inflating all the views for these lowest viewed items? Or do these not count? [1] https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/67395c18-c83c-865f-b0db-4736574505fa/full/843,/0/default.jpg https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/67395c18-c83c-865f-b0db-4736574...
- netsharc 3mo agoThe site calls the API directly (www.artic.edu), so yeah, probably it will ruin^W change the metric. It's probably the creator's idea? Some, ahem, video sites, have "Popular videos". Of course the videos that end up there get more views and get even more popular...
- dylan604 3mo agoThere's no real way to know that they really are that popular or just what the streamer wants viewers to think they are
- Retr0id 3mo agoIf the views are all real views it's hardly "inflating" anything.
- Klathmon 3mo agoIf they're using a static threshold of 200 views and there aren't many of these left it could pull them all out of that category. It could obviously be fixed but I was more curious than anything
- w-m 3mo agoQuerying the API, there seem to be 112998 artworks with this label as of this moment. (I'm deliberately not posting the direct API call in case it's expensive for them to run. Documentation is found here: https://api.artic.edu/docs/#fields-collections-artworks https://api.artic.edu/docs/#fields-collections-artworks)
- w-m 3mo ago...aaaand we're down to 112997 now.
- zach_garwood 3mo agoWe're not worried about ruining this metric. We want people to see art.
- NooneAtAll3 3mo agodid it get hug of death?
- DrewADesign 3mo agoI read that some people are having trouble with cloudflare and VPNs. Being an art school, I imagine they’re disinclined to make it easier for a bazillion people every day to thoughtlessly point a scraper at their site to vacuum everything up for training data.
- zach_garwood 3mo agoThis is it precisely. AI bots ruined it for everyone.
- Boss0565 3mo agoWow, some of these are super cool
- dofm 3mo agoGauguin, Manet, Rembrandt and Whistler sketches, Weston nudes, Harry Callahan photos, amazing things indeed. People generally seem quite uninterested in preparatory sketches/studies/maquettes by famous artists, which is absolute madness, to my mind. Unfinished and transitory work is much more interesting to me. Photographers' contact sheets especially.
- cindyllm 3mo ago[dead]
- jofzar 3mo agoCool project, it's actually a shame if it gets popular enough then it won't return anything
- xmcp123 3mo agoA shame but maybe also the point? If the under appreciated art is being viewed, that sounds great.
- jofzar 3mo agoIt's more that they then go to the "low view" threshold then are no longer viewed and because the date is hard coded then it will never show any more. I agree it's the point of the project but it's a bit of a shame someone could go to the site and see no art.
- thakoppno 3mo agothere’s probably some decent arguments on how to implement this.
- c-hendricks 3mo agoKudos to whoever put this in the response, honestly what a fun idea.
- hahahaa 3mo agoOpposite of a 429 right!
- peesem 3mo agoit keeps saying "failed to load" for me. through the magic of the developer console, i can see that the api calls are working but the actual image requests are not. it seems that this is a case of an overzealous cloudflare turnstile setup since if i open the image links in a new tab and pass a challenge i can view them.
- peesem 3mo agoif i turn off my vpn, it works, but the vpn is cloudflare's own WARP. strange
- zach_garwood 3mo agoWe're having ongoing issues with bot traffic, so we're constantly tweaking our Cloudflare settings.
- functionmouse 3mo agoI wish I could click the picture to pop out scale to full 1x
- ChrisArchitect 3mo agoReminded me of least viewed pages on wikipedia collections or neglected articles... See: In search of the least viewed article on Wikipedia (2022) https://colinmorris.github.io/blog/unpopular-wiki-articles https://colinmorris.github.io/blog/unpopular-wiki-articles (Some discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31524943 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31524943, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37955600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37955600)
- ggm 3mo agoI used to borrow the books which had "to be disposed if not lent in the next 3 months" slip in them. Never regretted reading them. The best one included a very odd short story by Flann OBrien about a carpenter who walls himself inside the oak panelling of a build he is working on, and a woman convinced Sago farming will cure Ireland's famine.
- kreelman 3mo agoThis site is vaguely addictive in a dopamine feeding sense. What will the next image be? ...One more click won't hurt... :-)
- ggm 3mo ago200 clicks later... I often find myself drowning in things like the Qld state library photo archives of the suburbs of Brisbane. They name street junctions which still exist, you pull up a modern photo in google maps, you look at the old one with Trams and wooden houses.. And another..
- defrost 3mo agoNi bheidh ar leitheidi aris ann. A line much abused in Myles na gCopaleen's (aka Brian O'Nolan's, aka Flann O'Brien's) An Béal Bocht (trans: The Poor Mouth)(1947) It translates as "Our likes will not be there again." and is originally from An toileánach (1929) - https://archive.org/details/toileanach0000ocro https://archive.org/details/toileanach0000ocro about remote island life.
- monk_grilla 3mo agoThis was my favourite of the ones I saw: https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/813984c9-f0a6-c340-5e89-f1c00af77fb7/full/843,/0/default.jpg https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/813984c9-f0a6-c340-5e89-f1c00af... Really moving piece. Great idea on the part of the API devs!
- Ogre 3mo agoThere used to be a site called Forgotify that would only play songs from Spotify that had zero listens. So each song played, of course, removed that song from the set that could ever be played by Forgotify. Doesn't look like it's around any more, sadly.
- dofm 3mo agoSeems likely that Spotify is stuffed full of "songs" with zero listens now.
- kombookcha 3mo agoYeah, I think this is an unfortunate casualty of the AI age. Instead of discovering a weird fast food employee orientation CD or somebody's niche garage album from 1996 that was semi-accidentally uploaded by whoever happens to own it now, you're just getting thousands of fake songs made by bots.
- mghackerlady 3mo agoI feel like it'd be worth it for someone to create an online library of CDs. People could send in their CDs if they weren't already archived, the music would be ripped and stored as flacs, and the CD would be sent back. The library could provide access to the files for the sort of thing nobody is going to issue a takedown for (aforementioned orientation CD or niche garage album) over the net
- kombookcha 3mo agoI know there are communities of people dedicated to doing this with old VHS-tapes and DVDs, so I am guessing somebody is likely chipping away at CD's like this in some capacity. It would be wonderful it it could grow into something like what you're suggesting. A major surface area for this sort of work is oddly enough on youtube - you can find truly obscure demo tapes and records digitized and uploaded there. You'd think the copyright demons would eat these videos alive, but it seems like they don't.
- appplication 3mo agoI enjoyed this one. Their other work was quite somber and then this title threw me for a loop https://www.artic.edu/artworks/151439/uranus-8 https://www.artic.edu/artworks/151439/uranus-8
- djsavvy 3mo agoThis is awesome. It's interesting to me how it messes with my incentives. At first I was just pulling the lever on the slot machine, then I went back and clicked on the pieces I really liked (to mark them as "viewed" for the Art Institute and show some love), but finally realized that I was systematically working to remove my favorites from the pool of images people would see. In the end I just clicked on the "refresh" button a few more times.
- DanielVZ 3mo agoMy first art work was a drawing of a bunch of couches flying. I loved it. I came back here to comment about it without noticing I’d lose track of it. I tried searching in the collection but I couldn’t find it, so if anyone finds a sketch of a bunch of couches, I’d appreciate a link. Somehow this made this experience even more wonderful.
- christoff12 3mo agothis one? https://www.artic.edu/artworks/192466/floating-chairs-flying-en-masse-from-goldblatts https://www.artic.edu/artworks/192466/floating-chairs-flying...
- DanielVZ 3mo agoah yes that one. thanks!
- c12 3mo agoIf you clicked through and viewed the artwork details page then it will be in the "recently viewed" collection at the bottom of the page.
- tacitusarc 3mo agoI thought this was lovely, and was surprised by the date: https://www.artic.edu/artworks/196937/summer-moon-at-miyajima-from-the-series-collection-of-views-of-japan https://www.artic.edu/artworks/196937/summer-moon-at-miyajim...
- livealife 3mo agoso beautiful
- Sweepi 3mo agoThe colors look so different here: https://nipponprints.com/images/tsuchiya-koitsu/summer-moon-at-miyajima-seki/sheet-full.avif https://nipponprints.com/images/tsuchiya-koitsu/summer-moon-... (non-deeplink: https://nipponprints.com/tsuchiya-koitsu/summer-moon-at-miyajima-seki/ https://nipponprints.com/tsuchiya-koitsu/summer-moon-at-miya... )
- runj__ 3mo agoDifferent print impression (probably not by the same woodblock?), but both are beatiful!
- tecleandor 3mo agoDefinitely. The print information says it's printed at least 50 years later than the original.
- Rendello 3mo agoThat's the cool part about woodblock printing, you can use different palettes to make multiple editions of the same print. You have to reset the gradients on each pass, in either case.
- zem 3mo agowow, that really is lovely. my favourite one so far.
- alias_neo 3mo ago
- natosaichek 3mo agoI remember reading a post by soneone who really liked imusic, i think, and the filter options it used to have. They had a playlist that was "all songs with four or five stars that i haven't listened to in 4 years or more" or something like that. This person apparently had a massive music collection, so there were always a few nostalgic hits to listen to.
- kazinator 3mo agoThat cheesy Renaissance marble table not only hasn't been viewed much, but all the views were from a White House IP address 2017-2021 and 2025 to present.
- kazinator 3mo agoAwesome user interface here: navigate away from the page and come back, and you will never see the thing you were looking at before. Is this person trying to get hired at Google?
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- runj__ 3mo agoI got a bunch of great ones and then I got this: https://www.artic.edu/artworks/91654/blackware-spouted-vessel-in-the-form-of-a-couple-in-an-erotic-embrace https://www.artic.edu/artworks/91654/blackware-spouted-vesse... I think I have an interest in Peruvian blackware now!! I mean... Look at this guy: https://www.artic.edu/artworks/6911/stirrup-spout-vessel-in-the-form-of-a-anthropomorphic-owl https://www.artic.edu/artworks/6911/stirrup-spout-vessel-in-...
- anilakar 3mo agoThis feels like I am violating something that is sacred. The last time I felt the same was when I accidentally found a Japanese Youtube channel that had tons of clips of konbini storefronts, a few seconds long each, most of them with zero views.
- yreg 3mo agoAs a konbini enthusiast whenever I leave my continent… Link for the konbini storefront channel?
- mghackerlady 3mo agoI love stumbling upon these kinds of things, especially if they've been long abandoned. I feel like an archaeologist digging up artifacts of a forgotten tribe, or perhaps an explorer in an abandoned hospital
- deepsun 3mo agoBut why? Seems like there's way more art than people need, just as there's way more music than people need. As a consequence, most artists aren't earning much (just as it's always been). Why would author welcomes us to artificially inflate click counts? For example, e-commerce stores don't like artificial reviews.
- chr15m 3mo agoCongratulations Citizen, you have complied with the mainthink.
- zach_garwood 3mo agoWe don't care about click counts. We just want people to see art.
- hi_hi 3mo agoThe irony is, that by drawing attention to these, especially on HN, they are likely to have the view numbers artificially increased, to a point where they no longer has_not_been_viewed_much A new field is required…
- dotancohen 3mo agoThere is no irony. Drawing attention to these works is likely the reason this bool was introduced in the first place.
- DonHopkins 3mo agoThey could monetize it by having a Pay-Per-Unview button that lets you pay to unview things you liked and want others to see.
- nairboon 3mo agoIs it really an artificial increase? Presumably the humans of HN are naturally viewing these artworks.
- Arainach 3mo agoHow can we reconcile "viewed fewer than 200 times since 2010" with the absurd number of crawlers overloading the entire internet from every AI company out there?
- jasongi 3mo agoPerhaps a quirk of the implementation - maybe the site doesn't server-side render links that lead to these items (though many bots run a full browser now), maybe they only track usage client-side or only in their mobile app.
- esperent 3mo agoDoes viewing them via this blog add to the view count?
- rho4 3mo agoI just wish the variable was called "has_been_viewed_much".
- zem 3mo agowhy, though? the current version is the interesting property
- ramon156 3mo agoThey meant that a more ergonomic name would be "has_been_viewed_much", so you can filter by the inverse and still get the same result, but with a better name
- zem 3mo agoI know what they meant, I was saying that imo the ergonomic name is has_not_been_viewed_much. it's directly expressing the property you are interested in, as opposed to expressing the negative property and comparing it to false.
- Paul_Clayton 3mo agoHow about rarely_viewed? Such expresses the property of interest, avoids the double negative issue, and is shorter? Of course rarely might imply a frequency much lower than the cutoff and infrequently has a bit of the double negative issue. Tradeoffs.
- Cthulhu_ 3mo agoThere's a rule of thumb somewhere that booleans should always be named / represent something positive, so "enabled" instead of "disabled", "visible" instead of "hidden", and "has_been_viewed_much" instead of "has_not_been_viewed_much". see e.g. https://codehealth.dev/prefer-positive-booleans/ https://codehealth.dev/prefer-positive-booleans/
- jon_adler 3mo agoWouldn’t a view count with range filtering provide the best flexibility?
- noduerme 3mo agoJust professionally, I'm curious whether they derive has_not_been_viewed_much by some nightly cron process, by an insert trigger on a `user_image_viewed` table, or by some monstrous full table join that HN is currently obliterating.
- zach_garwood 3mo agoThere's a scheduled task that runs every month to pull the view data from Google Analytics: https://github.com/art-institute-of-chicago/data-aggregator/blob/1eeb87ce21f51f27034eafabbd1eeae7a70aa2c2/app/Console/Kernel.php#L133-L134 https://github.com/art-institute-of-chicago/data-aggregator/... https://github.com/art-institute-of-chicago/data-aggregator/blob/1eeb87ce21f51f27034eafabbd1eeae7a70aa2c2/app/Console/Commands/Import/ImportAnalytics.php https://github.com/art-institute-of-chicago/data-aggregator/... The site hasn't been hugged to death yet,
- lloydatkinson 3mo agoThe first one I got was a palm tree growing out of an orange woman's anus... so, I can see why some of this isn't very popular.
- crazy3lf 3mo agoI like the first one I got: Honorable Mr. Cat - https://www.artic.edu/artworks/79175/honorable-mr-cat https://www.artic.edu/artworks/79175/honorable-mr-cat
- rockmeamedee 3mo agoReminds me of the "mathematical proof that there is no least interesting number". Because if there was a "least interesting number", that would make it interesting: it would have this unique property of being "the least interesting". Here each candidate for "least interesting art" loses that property in much the same way, becoming interesting by being not_viewed_much.
- CraftingLinks 3mo agohttps://www.artic.edu/artworks/31232/large-leaf-verdure-with-birds https://www.artic.edu/artworks/31232/large-leaf-verdure-with... I live there! Crazy...
- shooshx 3mo agoUI gore
- vlan121 3mo agoThe ai training data flag
- felooboolooomba 3mo agohttps://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/7a8a1d7e-c773-d11b-24f6-08c8f63d20f4/full/843,/0/default.jpg https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/7a8a1d7e-c773-d11b-24f6-08c8f63...
- richfreedman 3mo agoPedant here. No, it does not "beg the question". It raises the question. These are not the same thing. See, for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
- tehryanx 3mo agoPedant here. Using "for instance" here implies that you will be providing an example of how begging the question and raising the question are not the same thing. You've provided a definition and a source, not an example.
- MaxwellM 3mo agoTangentially related. I built a little app to help me find art for my home art frame (Meural) -- it searches through the Cleveland Museum of Art, Art Institute of Chicago, and Museum of Modern Art APIs. You can try it here https://artfindr.mohitbhasin.com/ https://artfindr.mohitbhasin.com/
- Departed7405 3mo agoThey will have to increase that number now!