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Having agents is like going from walking to having a bicycle. Business executives look at this and think "at this rate of progress we'll have self-driving cars

Having agents is like going from walking to having a bicycle. Business executives look at this and think "at this rate of progress we'll have self-driving cars in a few years!" and start making serious plans for that world. In reality I think we're going to be riding bikes for a long time. That situation of increased individual contributor productivity makes engineers more valuable, and increases the utility of engineers rather than making them a burden on your budget. Thus, cutting headcount right as they had huge potential to become vastly more productive was a stupid move. It's an admission that you don't know how to manage people effectively, which is embarrassing when you're paid mountains of money for your management skills.

Jyaif 3mo ago
Nobody knows if we are going to "just" be riding bikes for a long time. To give time for society to adapt I hope it's the case, but we really have no idea.
- mikgp 3mo ago
  Right, but if your real assertion is “we have no idea”, it seems you should point your skepticism significantly more towards the people betting $100 billion dollars that self-driving cars are coming next year than the ones who aren’t.
  - Davidzheng 3mo ago
    Evidence towards aside, the risk calculation depends on how much upside is from the 100B if progress starts the same rate. I think it's hard to bound that accurately
- theonemind 3mo ago
  It looks pretty clear LLMs don't get us there by themselves, no amount of duct tape, WD-40, etc. gets us past, say, the mathematical certainty of hallucinations. I mean, we don't know it any more than we don't know someone won't come out with cold fusion tomorrow, but it's a fundamental breakthrough away from where we're at. This isn't some routine engineering project with a guarantee of completion if you're just willing to keep pouring the billions. That's playing the lotto, you can pour away and get flat nothing. The only difference is they're pouring billions and praying a rabbit comes out of the hat, but it's actually not much reason to expect they're going to pull the cold-fusion level rabbit out of their hat they'd need to get us past bikes.
orphea 3mo ago
Having agents is like going from walking to having a bicycle. To having roller skates at best. And even then - they are probably with hexagonal wheels.
- pmg101 3mo ago
  Have you seen the original bicycles. Boneshakers and so on. No pneumatic tires. They were just enough more efficient than walking to sell but other than that pretty dreadful. Penny farthings where your feet directly drove the wheel. So many injuries! Pretty good analogy I reckon.

Jyaif 3mo ago

Nobody knows if we are going to "just" be riding bikes for a long time. To give time for society to adapt I hope it's the case, but we really have no idea.

mikgp 3mo ago
Right, but if your real assertion is “we have no idea”, it seems you should point your skepticism significantly more towards the people betting $100 billion dollars that self-driving cars are coming next year than the ones who aren’t.
- Davidzheng 3mo ago
  Evidence towards aside, the risk calculation depends on how much upside is from the 100B if progress starts the same rate. I think it's hard to bound that accurately
theonemind 3mo ago
It looks pretty clear LLMs don't get us there by themselves, no amount of duct tape, WD-40, etc. gets us past, say, the mathematical certainty of hallucinations. I mean, we don't know it any more than we don't know someone won't come out with cold fusion tomorrow, but it's a fundamental breakthrough away from where we're at. This isn't some routine engineering project with a guarantee of completion if you're just willing to keep pouring the billions. That's playing the lotto, you can pour away and get flat nothing. The only difference is they're pouring billions and praying a rabbit comes out of the hat, but it's actually not much reason to expect they're going to pull the cold-fusion level rabbit out of their hat they'd need to get us past bikes.

orphea 3mo ago

Having agents is like going from walking to having a bicycle. To having roller skates at best. And even then - they are probably with hexagonal wheels.

pmg101 3mo ago
Have you seen the original bicycles. Boneshakers and so on. No pneumatic tires. They were just enough more efficient than walking to sell but other than that pretty dreadful. Penny farthings where your feet directly drove the wheel. So many injuries! Pretty good analogy I reckon.