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This is democracy manifest. What a joke.
by sph 3mo ago
This is democracy manifest. What a joke.
- stavros 3mo agoWe have been enjoying a succulent Chinese meal.
- Lio 3mo agoYeah and Peter Hummelgaard is about to touch you on the penis. > "We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone's civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services," What an arsehole. https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/danish-justice-minister-we-must-break-perception-of-right-to-private-messaging/ar-AA1MA98T https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/danish-justice...
- sph 3mo agoWhat is it with Danish Social Democrats and wanting to enact mass surveillance at any cost?
- Ray20 3mo agoIsn't this natural for any "Social" ideologies? They imply a system of centralized redistribution, which implies a powerful repressive apparatus and an omnipresent surveillance system.
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- int_19h 3mo agoNo, it is not, and no, they do not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
- mdp2021 3mo agoDoes that ###, which seems to have the most simplistic ideas about the world, also have arguments to defend its position? I mean: has it ever heard, for example about the 2nd Amendment to the USA constitution, arguing that people must be able to defend from governments themselves? Is it not aware that data is not accessed "just by the good guys"? ?!
- MichaelZuo 3mo agoIt is a bit strange why EU countries allow their own credibility and legitimacy get steadily dragged down, bit by bit, by all these thousands of dubious statements, tricks, manoeuvres, and so on. Do they just not care about weakening their own societies?
- rckt 3mo agoThe govs consist of people who have their own agendas. Mass surveillance is something they all are aligned on.
- graemep 3mo agoMuch the same reasons why the UK, US etc. do much the same. It is slowed down a bit in some countries with strong constitutions or resistance to it, but the governments all want it.
- mdp2021 3mo ago> "You have to understand that times have changed, it's not like before... Now we have children, the children, the children, children, children and the t-word." ~~ keir starmer (I'll see if I can still find the source. If anybody beats me to it, appreciated.)
- SpicyLemonZest 3mo agoI guess I'm not sure what's dubious here. The article says they're circumventing "democratic control bodies", but I don't know what that means (perhaps it's a more common phrase in German?), and it sounds like the European Parliament can still vote to reject Chat Control if they don't want it. The article strongly implies there's something dubious going on here, but to me what would be dubious is a procedure that prevents the parliament from voting on Chat Control.
- flumpcakes 3mo agoPerhaps the article is biased. The simple fact is that a law that existed since 2011 and expired in April is now back in effect. So we are back where we were on February. I don't remember moving from an anti-democratic hell scape to serene democratic beauty back in April so it's probably a nothing-burger. I often see news articles that trade on the fact the general populace aren't professional bureaucrats and so frame anything happening in unpopular ways.