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That's why trains work, but Google's shitty YouTube often does not: Terrible, terrible video player, tons of crap on the page, broken buffering all the time, hu

That's why trains work, but Google's shitty YouTube often does not: Terrible, terrible video player, tons of crap on the page, broken buffering all the time, huge memory and CPU hog, need to log in to even watch a video if using a VPN, insane key bindings that are switched around depending on full screen mode or not, stupid and manipulative ads that only the uninformed or simple minded can tolerate, and the list goes on. Found a bug? Keep it! You won't reach another human at Google being to tell them about it anyway!

chii 3mo ago
> That's why trains work and that's why trains work but you have to pay a higher price to use it, while youtube is shitty, and breaks often, but it's free to use. It is about the trade offs - not the trade offs that someone talks about passively, but actual action based trade offs; ala voting with their feet.
- chiefalchemist 3mo ago
  > but it’s free to use This is false. Nothing is free. We watch ads. We are tracked like animals. That time, attention and loss of privacy *is* payment. For this, it’s reasonable to expect a service that aspires to rise above shit-show.
  - kmoser 3mo ago
    Is free software free?
    - chiefalchemist 3mo ago
      [flagged]
- dtech 3mo ago
  You pay either just with money (Youtube premium) or by watching ads...
  - inigyou 3mo ago
    And if you have YouTube Premium and don't have Sponsorblock, you're still watching ads. Which proves something about ads: there's a law of conservation of ads. If you're not claiming the ad space, your upstream suppliers will.
  - mlrtime 3mo ago
    NYC subway has tons of ads and is constantly have problems, this thread comparison is horrible.
Yajirobe 3mo ago
I find YouTube player better than any other online player
- zelphirkalt 3mo ago
  I find even standard HTML5 player better than YouTube's player. So many issues with YouTube's player. Sometimes not even the play button works properly.

chii 3mo ago

> That's why trains work and that's why trains work but you have to pay a higher price to use it, while youtube is shitty, and breaks often, but it's free to use. It is about the trade offs - not the trade offs that someone talks about passively, but actual action based trade offs; ala voting with their feet.

chiefalchemist 3mo ago
> but it’s free to use This is false. Nothing is free. We watch ads. We are tracked like animals. That time, attention and loss of privacy *is* payment. For this, it’s reasonable to expect a service that aspires to rise above shit-show.
- kmoser 3mo ago
  Is free software free?
  - chiefalchemist 3mo ago
    [flagged]
dtech 3mo ago
You pay either just with money (Youtube premium) or by watching ads...
- inigyou 3mo ago
  And if you have YouTube Premium and don't have Sponsorblock, you're still watching ads. Which proves something about ads: there's a law of conservation of ads. If you're not claiming the ad space, your upstream suppliers will.
- mlrtime 3mo ago
  NYC subway has tons of ads and is constantly have problems, this thread comparison is horrible.

Yajirobe 3mo ago

I find YouTube player better than any other online player

zelphirkalt 3mo ago
I find even standard HTML5 player better than YouTube's player. So many issues with YouTube's player. Sometimes not even the play button works properly.