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Very interesting topic, but a strange choice of source. I'd recommend these instead: Coller foundation press release: https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/ne
by ileonichwiesz 3mo ago
Very interesting topic, but a strange choice of source. I'd recommend these instead:
Coller foundation press release: https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/news-and-insights/press-releases/scientists-win-us100-000-in-2026-coller-dolittle-prize https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/news-and-insights/pre...
The actual publication in Science: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads8482 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads8482
- kiproping 3mo agoThank you, I was also looking for a better source and a link to the paper. I thought the paper was this older one https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06394-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06394-9 from 2018.
- MathMonkeyMan 3mo agoIt does have the title going for it.
- technothrasher 3mo agoThe title doesn't match the paper though. People had already decoded the bird calls. What the paper was giving evidence to was that the birds themselves are cognitively decoding the calls.
- t-writescode 3mo agoI’m glad we’re doing this research. It makes me wonder how much time and potential we’ve wasted over the years actively assuming non-human animals were just rote automatons. It seems like a meaningful amount of science has been spent on systematically dismantling pre-existing prejudice over the last hundreds of years (and thousands in some cases and cultures). All humans are human. Babies can feel pain. Plants feel. Animals think. Just … So much wasted time on what should have always been seen as true. I get that some cultures already thought some of these things, but many of these were sadly not prevailing.
- adjejmxbdjdn 3mo agoI don’t believe there’s any evidence behind plant’s feeling or thinking. Other than that you’re right.
- why_at 3mo agoYeah I think there's a lot of science news about how plants are capable of more than the average person thinks, but people tend to conflate that with some kind of conscious experience.
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- SapporoChris 3mo agoWhat the average person thinks is a very low barrier but I do not think plants have crossed that yet.
- t-writescode 3mo agoSome variety of learnings over the last several years. Many of them are sensationalized; but my simple statement was "plants feel"; and many of these values imply some level of "feeling": Plants scream when harmed: [0] https://www.sciencealert.com/plants-really-do-scream-out-loud-we-just-never-heard-it-until-now https://www.sciencealert.com/plants-really-do-scream-out-lou... [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stressed-plants-cry-and-some-animals-can-probably-hear-them/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stressed-plants-c... Plants release VOCs when harmed: [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1lzg4x9/when_a_plant_is_attacked_by_herbivores_it_can/ https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1lzg4x9/... (OP's main comment has several sources) Plants respond to audio stimuli (hearing, sorta): [3] https://loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=24-P13-00035&segmentID=4 https://loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=24-P13-00035&s... [4] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4102826/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4102826/ A quick search reveals several other incidences of other "huh"-worthy thoughts; but my goal was "plants feel" and I would argue these are close enough to shorthand to "feel"
- HarHarVeryFunny 3mo agoHere's a non-paywalled version of the research. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.14.623689v1.full.pdf https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.14.623689v1....