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Manosphere content is toxic and harmful but the hyperviolence and desensitisation of the former should not be downplayed. That's where the mass shooters evident
by pphysch 3mo ago
Manosphere content is toxic and harmful but the hyperviolence and desensitisation of the former should not be downplayed. That's where the mass shooters evidently come from.
- nearlyepic 3mo ago> That's where the mass shooters evidently come from. I mean, quite a few have come from proto-manosphere circles, too. Elliot Rodger comes to mind.
- scotty79 3mo agoGiven how large it is, I don't think it's a high stat. Especially compared with other subcultures. And we don't blame feminism for every instance where a man is killed by a man hating woman.
- tsimionescu 3mo ago> And we don't blame feminism for every instance where a man is killed by a man hating woman. The fact that this is basically unheard of, while incels shooting up schools is somewhat common, may explain why blame is often thrown at one movement and not the other.
- scotty79 3mo ago[flagged]
- tsimionescu 3mo agoSo can you give an example of a crazed man-hating feminist woman engaging in a mass shooting? Or just of a woman engaging in a mass shooting (alone, not with a man) in the last, say, 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? Because I can definitely give you examples of incels doing this. Not a huge amount, mind you, but at least some.
- acdha 3mo agoThe asymmetry is striking: when feminists talk about incels, it’s about how to improve their lives and help them out of the cognitive trap they’ve fallen or been lured into. I’ve never seen the equivalent of the pervasive casual, often gleeful, calls for violence and degradation which characterize the “manosphere”.
- scotty79 3mo agoI think men hating women don't usually do mass killings. They mostly kill specific men they hate the most.
- tsimionescu 3mo agoOK, the a female serial killer, killing the men she hates the most, one after the other. Or do you just mean that some women kill a man because they hate that particular man? Because that's not what "man-hating" means. I might hate Adolf Hitler, who was a man, but that doesn't make me "a man hating man".
- mrguyorama 3mo agoHalf the country talks about feminism like it is an existential threat, including the millions upon millions of people who consume manosphere content.
- pphysch 3mo agoI wouldn't equate incel with manosphere. Manosphere is often hypersexual and about greed/consumption and being insecure and getting scammed, whereas inceldom is more hate-based.
- Balinares 3mo agoA hundred thousand furries consuming unfathomable amounts of porn without shooting up anyone kind of cast doubt about that point.
- sciencejerk 3mo agoWho is talking about furries? But Tyler James Robinson and Benjamin Jeffrey Smith. I guess that's only 2/100k to your point?
- vharish 3mo agoAnd 99 out of hundred get tired of porn at some point. We all have watched it and moved on. If only one can shoot and move on.
- Zababa 3mo ago>That's where the mass shooters evidently come from. Citation needed?
- mschuster91 3mo ago> That's where the mass shooters evidently come from. Bollocks. European teenagers watch just as much porn and play GTA at age 10 and yet we don't end up having 12 children a day die from gun violence [1]. Note, I'm not an anti-gun nut, I think German and British anti-gun laws are ridiculously strict. But the American way of dealing with guns is equally bad. [1] https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/resources/gun-violence-facts/ https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/resources/gun-violence-fact...
- technothrasher 3mo ago> we don't end up having 12 children a day die from gun violence Note that this definition of "children" includes ages up 24 years old. Not that the US doesn't have a gun violence problem, but pretending 24 year olds are "children" in order to gain a better sound bite doesn't help anybody.
- imtringued 3mo agoIf you look at the actual statistics there are 1300 annual homicides killing children which amounts to 3.5 children + teenagers a day. Then there are gun suicides which I would not count as gun violence, amounting to another 3.5 children + teenagers a day.