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There was a yew bush on my walk to primary school. When berries were in season, I used to pick and squish the berry between my fingers because the shape was uni

by xattt 3mo ago

There was a yew bush on my walk to primary school. When berries were in season, I used to pick and squish the berry between my fingers because the shape was unique (berry with a seed that sticks out‽) ands its slimy feel. Thank goodness it never amounted to anything more, even through transdermal absorption.

idiotsecant 3mo ago
Oh wow I think we had these on the way to school when I was a kid too. Everyone told us not to eat them so we used to put the berries in our mouth and spit them out to show how tough we were. Wow we were very very stupid kids.
- seszett 3mo ago
  I think one of the problems is people thinking kids are more stupid than they are, and blanket "don't do that" statements without explanations don't really work for kids. If they had told you they were highly poisonous instead of just telling you "not to eat them" you might have taken them more seriously. And if they had given you a taste of the red berry around it (which is sweet but not that special either, and the texture is not great) you might just have thought it was not necessary to play with them at all. But that requires education at all levels, around here (Belgium) I sometimes see parents who seem deadly afraid of anything nature, I tell my kids to eat blackberries and they softly tell their kids next to us not to do that. You end up with generations who just don't know anything about what's around them and will eventually do stupid things.
  - vidarh 3mo ago
    It takes longer than people tend to think before kids learn to infer things well at all, and so being explicit about causal chains tends to make kids more likely to take advice. E.g "put your coat on" might not lead the child to think it is cold, and even a "put your coat on, it's cold outside" might still not lead the child to realise that means they'll freeze without the coat. A lot of tantrums would be avoided if parents were more explicit about why they're giving certain advice.
    - mschuster91 3mo ago
      > A lot of tantrums would be avoided if parents were more explicit about why they're giving certain advice. For that, parents would need time. But if we have to spend half of our day with work or work-related tasks (commute, lunch break)... Society (or let's be real, capitalism) forces us to work unhealthy amounts of hours and then wonders why there aren't enough children and of the children that remain, they dumb down every year...
      - vidarh 3mo ago
        It saved me a lot of time when my son was little because it meant he argued less with me over the necessity of things at the cost of an extra sentence here and there.
    - jonathanlydall 3mo ago
      Depends on the kid and their age. Me to my 3.5-year-old boy after evening bath (winter here right now): Your feet are going to get cold, don't you want to put on your slippers to keep them warm? Him: No! And if I put them on he'll take them off as soon as I'm not stopping him from doing so. For putting on warm enough jacket for school I try similar reasoning which has yet to work with any kind of consistency, still mostly lands up having a bit of a tantrum all the way until I hand him over to his teacher. His two-year older sister was a lot less difficult at his age.
      - butlike 3mo ago
        "If you don't put on your slippers, your toes will fall off and then you won't be able to walk like everybody else!" Sometimes the old-world spook stories work.
        seszett 3mo ago
        I wouldn't recommend getting wrong things into their heads, because you (or someone else) will eventually have to teach them that it was not true, or they will discover it themselves, and that will undermine trust in the other things you said.
- fartcoin67 3mo ago
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appplication 3mo ago
We had them in our yard growing up, I recall regularly playing with the berries for the exact same reason. Funny enough my dad did warn me not to eat it, but based on this post eating the berry itself would have been one of the few ways it’s not toxic. Had no idea about the rest of the plant being so toxic until today.
- ErigmolCt 3mo ago
  The fact that the inviting red part is mostly fine but the plant around it is deadly is very on-brand for nature
ErigmolCt 3mo ago
The amount of childhood survival that comes down to "thankfully I only poked it and didn't eat it" is kind of alarming in retrospect
- ycombinete 3mo ago
  It’s probably selected for. We’re pokers by natural selection.

by xattt 3mo ago

idiotsecant 3mo ago

Oh wow I think we had these on the way to school when I was a kid too. Everyone told us not to eat them so we used to put the berries in our mouth and spit them out to show how tough we were. Wow we were very very stupid kids.

seszett 3mo ago
I think one of the problems is people thinking kids are more stupid than they are, and blanket "don't do that" statements without explanations don't really work for kids. If they had told you they were highly poisonous instead of just telling you "not to eat them" you might have taken them more seriously. And if they had given you a taste of the red berry around it (which is sweet but not that special either, and the texture is not great) you might just have thought it was not necessary to play with them at all. But that requires education at all levels, around here (Belgium) I sometimes see parents who seem deadly afraid of anything nature, I tell my kids to eat blackberries and they softly tell their kids next to us not to do that. You end up with generations who just don't know anything about what's around them and will eventually do stupid things.
- vidarh 3mo ago
  It takes longer than people tend to think before kids learn to infer things well at all, and so being explicit about causal chains tends to make kids more likely to take advice. E.g "put your coat on" might not lead the child to think it is cold, and even a "put your coat on, it's cold outside" might still not lead the child to realise that means they'll freeze without the coat. A lot of tantrums would be avoided if parents were more explicit about why they're giving certain advice.
  - mschuster91 3mo ago
    > A lot of tantrums would be avoided if parents were more explicit about why they're giving certain advice. For that, parents would need time. But if we have to spend half of our day with work or work-related tasks (commute, lunch break)... Society (or let's be real, capitalism) forces us to work unhealthy amounts of hours and then wonders why there aren't enough children and of the children that remain, they dumb down every year...
    - vidarh 3mo ago
      It saved me a lot of time when my son was little because it meant he argued less with me over the necessity of things at the cost of an extra sentence here and there.
  - jonathanlydall 3mo ago
    Depends on the kid and their age. Me to my 3.5-year-old boy after evening bath (winter here right now): Your feet are going to get cold, don't you want to put on your slippers to keep them warm? Him: No! And if I put them on he'll take them off as soon as I'm not stopping him from doing so. For putting on warm enough jacket for school I try similar reasoning which has yet to work with any kind of consistency, still mostly lands up having a bit of a tantrum all the way until I hand him over to his teacher. His two-year older sister was a lot less difficult at his age.
    - butlike 3mo ago
      "If you don't put on your slippers, your toes will fall off and then you won't be able to walk like everybody else!" Sometimes the old-world spook stories work.
      - seszett 3mo ago
        I wouldn't recommend getting wrong things into their heads, because you (or someone else) will eventually have to teach them that it was not true, or they will discover it themselves, and that will undermine trust in the other things you said.
fartcoin67 3mo ago
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appplication 3mo ago

We had them in our yard growing up, I recall regularly playing with the berries for the exact same reason. Funny enough my dad did warn me not to eat it, but based on this post eating the berry itself would have been one of the few ways it’s not toxic. Had no idea about the rest of the plant being so toxic until today.

ErigmolCt 3mo ago
The fact that the inviting red part is mostly fine but the plant around it is deadly is very on-brand for nature

ErigmolCt 3mo ago

The amount of childhood survival that comes down to "thankfully I only poked it and didn't eat it" is kind of alarming in retrospect

ycombinete 3mo ago
It’s probably selected for. We’re pokers by natural selection.