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I'm not sure this information will sway very many people. I have relatives who are all getting tested for t-cell counts related to mRNA because they are convinc
by doginasuit 4mo ago
I'm not sure this information will sway very many people. I have relatives who are all getting tested for t-cell counts related to mRNA because they are convinced they are the cause of any and all health problems they are facing. It seems like the medical professionals who are administering the tests are at least somewhat responsible for their misapplication.
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- shakna 4mo agoRFK's reliance on terrain theory, disproved continually since some five hundred years ago, does much to assist in citations - it is common to cite bad science as evidence where we need to improve public comprehension.
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- Sabinus 4mo agoI don't approve of the downvoting and flagging, if there's anywhere on the internet that conspiracy ideas can be constructively pushed back on it should be here. That being said you're not making very detailed defences of RFK's book and ideas. Can you be more specific on some ideas or claims from his book that you believe in and how they're supported?
- dang 4mo agoYou've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly. If you keep this up, we will ban you. We already asked you to stop this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46534572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46534572. There are, unfortunately, many examples of your doing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47756136 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47756136 (April 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47745846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47745846 (April 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053228 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053228 (Feb 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46755775 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46755775 (Jan 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46605417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46605417 (Jan 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46522898 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46522898 (Jan 2026) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45988414 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45988414 (Nov 2025) This is not a comment about any of your views on vaccines or anything else. But you can't post like this regardless of what your view is on any topic. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.
- manwe150 4mo agoHaving read it, he does cite something for almost every claim. Although almost every source also contradicts his conclusions on some basic, logical, statistical, mathematical, or humane level, if you bother to fact check them. So it’s quite hard to quantify what it means to say it has good citations.
- doginasuit 4mo agoWell cited doesn't mean very much outside of the context of peer reviewed work. This book pushes Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine as "miracle cures", thanks to that idea my relatives also have a stockpile of both.
- LastTrain 4mo agoI have a simple rule. If a person spews complete bullshit I no longer trust them.
- api 4mo ago“I won’t put chemicals from big pharma in my body!” Proceeds to raw dog a bunch of “research chemicals” cause some roided up bro talked about it on a podcast… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7gbFMWZWlo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7gbFMWZWlo They’re not vaccines though.
- javea71 4mo agoI think you'll find there's a rational distrust in big pharma
- epistasis 4mo agoI don't think I'll find that, after investigating the claims I have heard.
- babypuncher 4mo agoTwo things can be true: Big Pharma can be evil, and their products are much better vetted for safety and efficacy than random peptides sourced form mystery factories.
- vlian2088 4mo agoand do you really think a significant percentage of forced vaccination detractors are taking mystery peptides? have there been studies, or are you vibing this guess off snarky reddit comments?
- ianm218 4mo agoAnecdotally I know several people who would fall in the camp of anti vax but openly use peptides. And intuitively it makes sense we’re talking about groups of people who are skeptical of main stream institutional health recommendations but trust specific personal sources for medical advice. I’m vibing but it feels like there is a pretty clear intersection of peptides and the fringe science health community no?
- epistasis 4mo agoOf course there's a huge overlap, but perhaps more significantly is that RFK Jr. who is in charge of the entire regulatory structure is both an anti-scientific anti-vaxxer and wants to tear down the safety and efficacy regulations around peptides at the same time: https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-panel-with-peptide-peddlers-as-fda-scientists-oppose-access/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-pan...
- quotemstr 4mo agoNobody's used state power to mandate peptides and social media censorship to reports of adverse effects. As many of us said at the time, the mandates weren't worth the destruction of public trust, especially because the vaccine wasn't even sterilizing. The next time there's a crisis, resist the urge to use the government to achieve outcomes by brute force. It doesn't work and has generational adverse consequences.
- idiotsecant 4mo agoI can't even have this argument again. It's exhausting.
- RandomLensman 4mo agoHow should the US have pursued WWII if government force weren't an option?
- epistasis 4mo agohttps://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-panel-with-peptide-peddlers-as-fda-scientists-oppose-access/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-pan... > As many of us said at the time, the mandates weren't worth the destruction of public trust Public trust was not dissolved by the actions of the government, it was dissolved by propagandists cynically using falsehoods and half-truths to gain power. That's it. People don't distrust science because of anything scientists did, it's all because of the propagandists and the easily tricked and the political grifters. All of your accusations are, in the very best possible light, half truths, but in reality they are just lies. I think the rational part of society is tired of treating liars with kid gloves. The pandemic was a traumatic experience for all, and extra social graces were extended for a while for those who impose upon kind and polite people with their weird beliefs, but we've moved past that moment. Truth does matter!
- tomesco 4mo agoInformation won’t sway someone who’s views aren’t based on information.
- binarycrusader 4mo agoWhat’s the saying? You cannot reason a person out of a position they did not reason themself into in the first place.
- steve-atx-7600 4mo ago“Science-schmiance”
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- Schiendelman 4mo agoIt's not about swaying individuals. Let people believe their stupid stuff. It's about swaying investors and regulators. And yeah, we need to make sure we excise our regulators of crazy people, but that's cyclic. And next cycle, we'll get vaccines for a lot more.
- doginasuit 4mo agoPoint taken, but it isn't just a matter of individuals, it is a popular movement that has captured a significant part of role of regulators. The research is still valuable, but its lack of influence is not a problem that is safe to dismiss.
- Schiendelman 4mo agoUnfortunately, fighting the movement doesn't do anything for anyone. We both agree you need to fix the regulators - that's the thing you can change, and the actions that help there look nothing like arguing with the movement.
- ethbr1 4mo agoThe problem with the recent (Tuesday) Supreme Court overturning of Humphreys Executor^ is that it makes Congressionally-intended independent regulatory agencies (read: FDA) much more behold-to and controllable-by any current President. Which turns "fixing the regulator to use facts" back into "convincing enough people to elect a President who believes in the scientific method." ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey's_Executor_v._United_States#Subsequent_developments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey's_Executor_v._United_...
- Schiendelman 4mo agoIf you're already at the point of thinking about national politics, you won't have an impact. If your goal is to get more people vaccinated, the best thing you can do is going to be local. Funding or volunteering at free vaccination drives. Getting vaccination science into your local school curriculum early. Asking your local health department what they are struggling with.
- idiotsecant 4mo agoIt matters over time. The old kooks die off and are replaced with people who are relatively sane until they find new things to be old kooks about.
- cmrdporcupine 4mo agoUnfortunately a large number of the "kooks" are GenX and younger.
- ethbr1 4mo agoAgreed. Kooks aren't kooks because they're old. They're kooks because they live in information bubbles that reinforce their batshit ideas. And we've let Google / Meta do a fine job of poisoning the next generation's intellect in pursuit of ad revenue. Say what you want about the tenants of Fox, but at least it has a political ethos...
- idiotsecant 4mo agoI don't know if you noticed but genX got old when we weren't looking.
- cmrdporcupine 4mo agoYeh, trust me I know. Tho we're not quite "mass die-off" old yet. Not in aggregate anyways.