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> Don’t be like me! I wasted my entire life That's not the argument being made here. The field is changing. I had a good career in graphics, my life wasn't was

> Don’t be like me! I wasted my entire life That's not the argument being made here. The field is changing. I had a good career in graphics, my life wasn't wasted at all. That doesn't mean a college student would have the same experience starting today.

sph 3mo ago
Well, of course not, unless you are claiming that a future career in graphics is a bad idea, and there is no way you could say that with any reasonable certainty, I do not get the argument at all. The field is always changing. You could find people in the 80s saying ‘I had a good career in graphics, a college student would not have the same experience starting today’
- reactordev 3mo ago
  100% this. My dad told me not to get into it because of the web (he was a C guy) and instead I went head first into it AND did graphics programming (using C#, ewwww) just for the fun of it. Never discourage from someone wanting to learn, discourage the ego that thinks we need another John Carmack.
michaelchisari 3mo ago
Seems like a great field to get into if you can make it to the top 5-10% skillset. The rapid advances, in a trend replicating throughout society, push out the middle in favor of the top.
- readme 3mo ago
  Out of curiosity, which fields would you say are the best to just be mediocre in?
  - michaelchisari 3mo ago
    Nepo baby. Joking (sort of). I can't say I know of any in the fields I'm familiar with. I've watched tech get increasingly top-heavy since the covid hiring boom and bust, although it was already trending that way. There are a lot of fields dominated by boomers on the verge of retirement that are the safest bet for people who want to be good and make a good living but don't care to be extraordinary. I've heard that from arborists, water treatment specialists, actuaries, a few others.
    - dakolli 3mo ago
      Nobody who has ambitions of being the top of their field in engineering wants to be a water treatment specialists, arborist or actuary (maybe actuary if you're a stats nerd). What you're saying is go do something on the based on the potential for you to be professionally successful.. What about people doing things they love? I hate these people telling people who love to do a certain thing that they should just become a plumber or an electrician. Not everything is about spending your life to make as much pieces of paper the govt tells you are worth something. I'd rather be in poverty working with computers everyday and doing what I love than make 10k a month being a plumber. I actually can't stand you people.
      - ForgotIdAgain 3mo ago
        Being into computers is now such a stereotypical way to be nerd, I would be way more interested to talk to a plumbing nerd right now.
      - michaelchisari 3mo ago
        The question I answered was: Which fields would you say are the best to just be mediocre in > I actually can't stand you people. Unnecessary. People who want a basic middle class existence are not greedy and should not receive disdain. Many have responsibilities to their elders or others, have kids or want them, etc. so avowed poverty is not realistic. Especially when bohemian poverty is an increasingly vanishing option on a practical level.
      - fn-mote 3mo ago
  - witos2 3mo ago
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readme 3mo ago
I mean, there's other problems with OPs argument. For example, "there's no chance to become the next one" implies it's only worth it to do something if you can become the absolute best person in the field. It's a big world. Most of us will not be the very best at what we do. There are millions of fun games that were not written by John Carmack.
- rustystump 3mo ago
  Who is John Carmack? That old dude from the 90s? I kid, but there are many other modern Carmacks and id argue even more impressive contributions. The guy has done little since he left gaming. I wish more people praised Alex Evans. Dreams rendering tech is still unmatched to this day and was my inspiration for graphics, not Carmack.
  - pixelpoet 3mo ago
    My man :) Alex Evans has been my gfx coding hero since the 90s with his demoscene work, and I had the privilege of working briefly with him at Lionhead.
    - rustystump 3mo ago
      That is amazing and i am jealous.
xboxnolifes 3mo ago
Getting into a field that is changing is the best time to get into that field. The playing field gets equalized and you have more opportunity to be established as a strong expert.
- kansface 3mo ago
  That is not a universal because the incumbents may hold the institutional reigns. See Academy for a counter example.

sph 3mo ago

Well, of course not, unless you are claiming that a future career in graphics is a bad idea, and there is no way you could say that with any reasonable certainty, I do not get the argument at all. The field is always changing. You could find people in the 80s saying ‘I had a good career in graphics, a college student would not have the same experience starting today’

reactordev 3mo ago
100% this. My dad told me not to get into it because of the web (he was a C guy) and instead I went head first into it AND did graphics programming (using C#, ewwww) just for the fun of it. Never discourage from someone wanting to learn, discourage the ego that thinks we need another John Carmack.

michaelchisari 3mo ago

Seems like a great field to get into if you can make it to the top 5-10% skillset. The rapid advances, in a trend replicating throughout society, push out the middle in favor of the top.

readme 3mo ago
Out of curiosity, which fields would you say are the best to just be mediocre in?
- michaelchisari 3mo ago
  Nepo baby. Joking (sort of). I can't say I know of any in the fields I'm familiar with. I've watched tech get increasingly top-heavy since the covid hiring boom and bust, although it was already trending that way. There are a lot of fields dominated by boomers on the verge of retirement that are the safest bet for people who want to be good and make a good living but don't care to be extraordinary. I've heard that from arborists, water treatment specialists, actuaries, a few others.
  - dakolli 3mo ago
    Nobody who has ambitions of being the top of their field in engineering wants to be a water treatment specialists, arborist or actuary (maybe actuary if you're a stats nerd). What you're saying is go do something on the based on the potential for you to be professionally successful.. What about people doing things they love? I hate these people telling people who love to do a certain thing that they should just become a plumber or an electrician. Not everything is about spending your life to make as much pieces of paper the govt tells you are worth something. I'd rather be in poverty working with computers everyday and doing what I love than make 10k a month being a plumber. I actually can't stand you people.
    - ForgotIdAgain 3mo ago
      Being into computers is now such a stereotypical way to be nerd, I would be way more interested to talk to a plumbing nerd right now.
    - michaelchisari 3mo ago
      The question I answered was: Which fields would you say are the best to just be mediocre in > I actually can't stand you people. Unnecessary. People who want a basic middle class existence are not greedy and should not receive disdain. Many have responsibilities to their elders or others, have kids or want them, etc. so avowed poverty is not realistic. Especially when bohemian poverty is an increasingly vanishing option on a practical level.
    - fn-mote 3mo ago
- witos2 3mo ago
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readme 3mo ago

I mean, there's other problems with OPs argument. For example, "there's no chance to become the next one" implies it's only worth it to do something if you can become the absolute best person in the field. It's a big world. Most of us will not be the very best at what we do. There are millions of fun games that were not written by John Carmack.

rustystump 3mo ago
Who is John Carmack? That old dude from the 90s? I kid, but there are many other modern Carmacks and id argue even more impressive contributions. The guy has done little since he left gaming. I wish more people praised Alex Evans. Dreams rendering tech is still unmatched to this day and was my inspiration for graphics, not Carmack.
- pixelpoet 3mo ago
  My man :) Alex Evans has been my gfx coding hero since the 90s with his demoscene work, and I had the privilege of working briefly with him at Lionhead.
  - rustystump 3mo ago
    That is amazing and i am jealous.

xboxnolifes 3mo ago

Getting into a field that is changing is the best time to get into that field. The playing field gets equalized and you have more opportunity to be established as a strong expert.

kansface 3mo ago
That is not a universal because the incumbents may hold the institutional reigns. See Academy for a counter example.