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Can't do anything else with GLM 5.2 being widely available and advertised as "Mythos-like", and even Japan dropping a credible model. Actually it would only hur

Can't do anything else with GLM 5.2 being widely available and advertised as "Mythos-like", and even Japan dropping a credible model. Actually it would only hurt to keep them in lockdown.

solenoid0937 4mo ago
I don't think anyone with a clue seriously thinks of GLM as Mythos like. It's barely Opus-like. The closest comparison is Sonnet 5.
- davidwritesbugs 4mo ago
  True. But for how long? 6-9 months till Mythos equivalence in glm-5.4?
  - solenoid0937 4mo ago
    Depends if they can distill Mythos. They are creative, I think they'll hack a US company to get access to Mythos traces and do it.
- skeledrew 4mo ago
  Are you sure about that? But also I don't think anyone in the export control decision making has much of a clue about model capabilities as well. All someone has to do is show them a few articles, like: - https://vgtimes.com/tech-and-hardware/159377-glm-5.2-open-chinese-ai-model-matches-claude-mythos-in-cybersecurity-and-vulnerability-detection.html https://vgtimes.com/tech-and-hardware/159377-glm-5.2-open-ch... - https://www.business-standard.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/fugu-glm-5-2-mythos-ai-benchmarks-artificial-intelligence-126070100496_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/technology/artificial-inte... - https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/china-brings-glm-5-2-another-mythos-like-ai-model-with-in-a-week-to-take-on-anthropic-article-154783936 https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/china-brings...
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jitl 4mo ago
> even Japan dropping a credible model if fugu/fugu ultra was good, why aren’t we hearing about how good it is? seems super slow and expensive, and everyone i’ve talked to who tried it gave up
- skeledrew 4mo ago
  That's at least better than the nothing we've been hearing all this time. Japan being what it is re tech, I expected them to be heavy in the space, but Fugu is the first LLM I'm seeing gain attention in the news. Although that attention is still also boosted by the timely release during the export control. It's strange.

Can't do anything else with GLM 5.2 being widely available and advertised as "Mythos-like", and even Japan dropping a credible model. Actually it would only hurt to keep them in lockdown.

solenoid0937 4mo ago

I don't think anyone with a clue seriously thinks of GLM as Mythos like. It's barely Opus-like. The closest comparison is Sonnet 5.

davidwritesbugs 4mo ago
True. But for how long? 6-9 months till Mythos equivalence in glm-5.4?
- solenoid0937 4mo ago
  Depends if they can distill Mythos. They are creative, I think they'll hack a US company to get access to Mythos traces and do it.
skeledrew 4mo ago
Are you sure about that? But also I don't think anyone in the export control decision making has much of a clue about model capabilities as well. All someone has to do is show them a few articles, like: - https://vgtimes.com/tech-and-hardware/159377-glm-5.2-open-chinese-ai-model-matches-claude-mythos-in-cybersecurity-and-vulnerability-detection.html https://vgtimes.com/tech-and-hardware/159377-glm-5.2-open-ch... - https://www.business-standard.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/fugu-glm-5-2-mythos-ai-benchmarks-artificial-intelligence-126070100496_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/technology/artificial-inte... - https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/china-brings-glm-5-2-another-mythos-like-ai-model-with-in-a-week-to-take-on-anthropic-article-154783936 https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/china-brings...

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jitl 4mo ago

> even Japan dropping a credible model if fugu/fugu ultra was good, why aren’t we hearing about how good it is? seems super slow and expensive, and everyone i’ve talked to who tried it gave up

skeledrew 4mo ago
That's at least better than the nothing we've been hearing all this time. Japan being what it is re tech, I expected them to be heavy in the space, but Fugu is the first LLM I'm seeing gain attention in the news. Although that attention is still also boosted by the timely release during the export control. It's strange.