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> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits. > The new classifier also c
by matheusmoreira 4mo ago
> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.
> The new classifier also comes at the cost of flagging benign requests more often during routine coding and debugging tasks.
Here's Fable 5, the strongest model. Actually try to use it to harden your code and it turns into Opus 4.8. You have seven days to use it, and only half of that time's worth in actual usage. Enjoy.
Looks like it's going to be a thoroughly frustrating experience, even worse than initial rollout. For subscription users, the situation is almost indistinguishable from the export ban.
- yeeetz 4mo agothey might as well not released it at all, what's the point of this theater and artificial scarcity
- matheusmoreira 4mo agoNo idea. But I will switch to OpenAI if they release their Sol model on a subscription. And if neither of them do, I will switch to GLM 5.2.
- cromka 4mo agoIt will likely be GLM 5.3 by then
- lilytweed 4mo agoThis is what I’m thinking, too. OpenAI is gaining a structural advantage purely on the basis of not being considered an enemy of the administration. Anthropic really blew it with Washington.
- ekidd 4mo agoBy "blew it with Washington" you mean "Didn't donate millions to the ballroom."
- eru 4mo agoIt's interesting that the fate of billions or even trillions of dollar hinges on millions of dollars of donations.
- Matl 4mo agoThey blew it by pretending to take some sort of moral high ground while their model was being used in Iran to blow up schools. I say they get what they deserve. I would have a lot more respect for them if they banned Pentagon use of their models outright.
- miki123211 4mo agoIt doesn't look like it; similar restrictions apply to GPT-5.6 as used to apply to Fable. I think the Fable ban happened because Anthropic was first to release a capable enough model.
- jitl 4mo agoi don’t think 5.6 will be as good as fable. their benchmark graphs say so, maybe they’ll take some limiters off next week or something now that being Fable tier isn’t scary anymore.
- tiahura 4mo agoPerhaps the 9,999 fields other than computer technician will appreciate it?
- siva7 4mo agoSo fable will jump more often to Opus than it already did on original release? Working with fable felt like having to constantly fight against your work tool. Frustrating. Now they're making it even more frustrating.
- sroussey 4mo agoDonald Trump named David Sacks the White House AI and crypto czar. I guess you know whom to thank.
- SXX 4mo agoWasnt it Anthropic marketing their models as very very smart and dangerous?
- meowface 4mo agoI can't roll my eyes hard enough at all the people who say this shit about Anthropic every day. I know I'll get downvoted. I know it's lame to complain about future downvotes. I don't care anymore. Anthropic was correct in their assessment and early warning of Mythos's capabilities, and they did this rollout pretty well. They were not hype marketing. They were being genuinely cautious and honest. The Trump admin was largely unreasonable with the sudden export control. (Though not entirely unreasonable.) The export control also had not much to do with Anthropic's pre-release warnings. See: GPT-5.6 currently being held up by the federal government.
- Matl 4mo ago> Anthropic was correct in their assessment and early warning of Mythos's capabilities, and they did this rollout pretty well. They were not hype marketing. They were being genuinely cautious and honest. So what prevented them from putting in the sort of safeguards they ended up putting in without hyping it for months prior as being so good, it's too dangerous?
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- 2001zhaozhao 4mo agoAt least subscription users only have to pay $700 for $1000 of extra credits.
- davidhs 4mo ago> Looks like it's going to be a thoroughly frustrating experience, even worse than initial rollout. Honestly, why bother with it? They are effectively just releasing the model in-name, but we just get Opus 4.8.
- matheusmoreira 4mo agoYeah. I'm gonna ask Fable to code review my other projects and I guess that's it.
- jm4 4mo agoIt was already frustrating to use before. I wanted to review my own code for OWASP top 10 kind of stuff and it kept refusing. It repeatedly popped up scary warnings about how I was violating TOS. I had to go through quite a few iterations of that prompt. When I finally got it to work it burned through all my remaining usage on a single run. I won’t even bother with it if they’ve made it even more frustrating. Instead, I’ve been using a combo of Opus 4.8, GLM 5.2 and DeepSeek v4 Pro. Then I have Opus synthesize and verify the reports from all 3 and make the fixes.
- throw1234567891 4mo ago“And even though it falls back to Opus, we charge you for Fumble.”
- enceladus06 4mo agoFable 5 is switching into Opus 4.8 for everything I throw at it. It is not worth it Opus 4.8 is good enough for the next couple months. For $17/mo for pro anthropic is still worth it for claude code etc.